This is from 2001. I interview 2 promoters of Avatar, a for-profit org that "sells enlightenment." OK, that's a bit overblown. But if you search the internet you'll find many ex-members who tell the same sad tale of being taken for a ride by these guys.

That said, I'm sure there are elements of what they teach that are of value. But I assure you that these bits of wisdom are found in multiple places that don't charge thousands of dollars to learn.

I recorded a special intro to these episodes to offer context. Theme music "Nigal."