What shapes a human life? How do suffering, healing, awakening, and self-understanding intertwine?
In this deeply personal conversation, Thomas sits down with longtime friend and spiritual seeker Michael Casari for a wide-ranging conversation about the nature of self, healing, and the lifelong search for truth. Michael shares stories from his childhood, travels around the country, and his years studying with spiritual teacher Richard Rose. Together they explore healing as a return to one's original nature, the importance of meaningful work, and the grace hidden in ordinary moments of life.
This conversation moves beyond techniques and modalities to explore a deeper question: What does it mean to truly know yourself?
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Michael Casari is a Zen carpenter and long-time student of Richard Rose, starting with the Pyramid Zen Society group at Kent State University in the early 1970s. He worked closely with Richard Rose for many years, sharing many adventures in cross-country travels, spending much time at the farm, and helping organize Albigen System groups in various parts of the country.
Episode Webpage:
https://www.avenuesofawakening.com/p/the-shape-of-self
Resources
https://www.tatfoundation.org
https://richardroseteachings.com/
Carillon, Rose’s book of Poetry:
https://www.tatfoundation.org/tat-forum-archives/tat_books.htm#carillon
Jim Burns’ book At Home With the Inner Self, on mind-study, healing, and awakening
https://www.amazon.com/Home-Inner-Self-Jim-Burns/dp/0979963079
2009 Video of Michael Casari reading Rose’s poetry
https://vimeo.com/32325403
Michael’s Full Account of his time with Rose
https://albigen.net/richard-rose-the-man-who-was-a-mirror/#tab-4761