Kylie speaks with guest Dr Janine Luttick of Australian Catholic University, author of the wonderful book: Jairus's Daughter and the Female Body in Mark (SBL Press, 2024). We speak about Psalm 130 and Mark 5.21–43, with a particular focus on the story of Jairus's daughter. Themes include: crying out of the depths, active waiting and hoping, God's presence in the midst of grief, Jesus restructuring families, children responding to the experience of Jesus, and more.