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‘Baby Steps’ on Climate Will Not Work - with Kumi Naidoo


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Stop Mopping the Floor. Turn Off the Tap. 

 

In this upbeat conversation Kumi Naidoo, President of the Fossil Fuel Treaty Initiative, argues that we have spent 30 years treating the symptoms of climate change while protecting its root cause. 

 

From a funeral for a glacier to the Fossil Fuel Treaty, this is a conversation about activism, arts, democracy and why courageous hope is now both essential and achievable. 

 

“We have been wiping the floor without turning off the tap,” he tells our Thinking the Unthinkable podcast..  

 

Eighty six percent of emissions still come from fossil fuels. Yet global negotiations continue to produce what Kumi calls outcomes full of loopholes. 

 

He underscores that the crisis is not environmental. It is systemic. But activism is mobilising new positives. “We need courageous hope” and this is happening. 

 

Energy. Finance. Food. Transport. Power. 

 

He also warns that the climate, biodiversity and nature movement is severely held back by a communications deficit. 

 

Facts are not enough. People respond to loss. To the impact on children. To a lack of imagination. But arts and culture are showing a new way.  

 

Listen to the full conversation. 


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