Andrew and Jerry discuss rockstars not knowing what puns are, critics not knowing what hooks are, what it means to be "indie", sideburns, and songcraft. Oh yes, and they do the whole "bad band great song" thing too. Join them as they recount Semisonic's career, discuss the creation of Closing Time, explore how Semisonic may be considered a bad band, and make the case for why Closing Time is a great song. Thanks for listening. And remember, disagreement is encouraged!