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In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with business acceleration strategist, keynote speaker, and emotional intelligence expert Chris Salem to explore why communication is the foundation of sustainable leadership and long-term business success.
Chris shares his deeply personal journey from burnout, anxiety, and seeking external validation to becoming a leading voice on emotional intelligence, effective communication, and sustainable success. Together, Angela and Chris challenge the idea that emotional intelligence is simply a "soft skill," arguing instead that it's one of the most important business skills leaders can develop.
They discuss why great organizations remain adaptable while others become stagnant, how leaders unintentionally create cultures where employees don't feel seen or heard, and why so many workplace challenges can be traced back to communication breakdowns rather than strategy failures.
Along the way, they dive into practical leadership lessons on building resilient teams, preventing burnout, creating psychologically safe workplaces, improving customer experience, and leading with greater self-awareness.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Understanding Workplace Conflict and Communication
02:01 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership
11:13 Defining Emotional Intelligence and Its Impact
24:35 Discipline and Personal Well-being in Leadership
29:12 Recognizing and Combating Burnout
31:34 The Holy Shift Moment: Personal Transformation
42:00 Building a Sustainable Foundation for Success
44:59 The Process of Sustainable Success
47:43 The Importance of Effective Communication
01:03:07 Breaking Barriers in Leadership Communication
01:11:23 The Four Pillars of Success
01:24:35 The Power of Giving and Receiving
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
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Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with Brandon Smith, leadership coach, TEDx speaker, professor at Emory University, and author known as "The Workplace Therapist." Together, they explore the human side of leadership and why so many workplace challenges are rooted in psychology rather than process.
Brandon shares the deeply personal story of growing up with a debilitating stutter, how that experience shaped his understanding of communication and resilience, and why he believes purpose is often born from pain. The conversation dives into narcissistic leadership, toxic workplace cultures, trust, vulnerability, curiosity, and the hidden costs of urgency-driven organizations.
You'll also learn Brandon's powerful frameworks for building trust, navigating difficult leaders, setting healthy boundaries, creating psychological safety, and moving from being the hero of the team to becoming the leader who develops others
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Timestamps:
00:00 The Chaos of Urgency in Leadership
02:12 Brandon Smith: The Workplace Therapist's Journey
06:18 The Impact of a Horrible Boss on Leadership Philosophy
11:51 Balancing Compassion and Accountability in Leadership
16:32 Overcoming Stuttering: A Journey to Empathy
20:25 The Role of Pain in Finding Purpose
25:59 Understanding Narcissism in Leadership
30:00 Identifying Narcissistic Traits in Interviews
34:02 Understanding Narcissism and Insecurity
35:16 Healthy Confidence vs. Narcissism
39:32 The Importance of Curiosity in Leadership
44:14 The Dilemma of Toxic Leaders
48:54 Recognizing Adaptation to Toxic Environments
57:02 Building Trust Through Vulnerability and Curiosity
01:05:00 The Impact of Curiosity and Questioning
01:08:52 Understanding Assumptions and Clarifying Questions
01:12:55 The Importance of Personal Branding in Leadership
01:20:01 Managing Urgency and Prioritization in Leadership
01:26:59 Rapid Fire Insights and Final Thoughts
The discussion also tackles questions…
10 Key Takeaways from Brandon Smith on Leadership, Trust, and Workplace Culture
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela sits down with leadership expert, executive coach, and bestselling author Jim Huling, co-author of The 4 Disciplines of Execution, to explore what it really takes to build high-performing teams, execute what matters most, and create a legacy that outlasts your title.
Together, they challenge outdated leadership models built on compliance and control, and make the case for a more powerful approach rooted in curiosity, commitment, empowerment, and accountability. Jim shares lessons from coaching more than 20,000 leaders around the world, while Angela brings practical insights from scaling organizations, leading startups, and developing the next generation of leaders.
The conversation explores why top talent leaves organizations, how leaders accidentally create cultures of disengagement, and why sustainable performance requires more than motivational speeches and short-term wins. They also unpack the difference between playing to win and playing not to lose, and how that mindset shapes everything from decision-making to innovation.
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Timestamps:
00:00 The Evolving Landscape of Leadership
07:36 From Success to Significance
11:47 Stages of Leadership Development
19:48 Curiosity as a Leadership Tool
25:37 Empowerment Over Compliance
30:59 The Cost of Talent Loss
37:15 Playing to Win vs. Playing Not to Lose
45:12 The Importance of Humility and Collaboration
48:00 The Impact of Toxic Culture on Organizations
51:25 Starting Anew: The Power of Leadership Example
56:01 The Role of Coaches in Leadership
01:00:00 Execution: From Strategy to Action
01:07:00 The Four Disciplines of Execution
01:27:20 Building Relationships for Success
01:28:44 Understanding Lagging and Leading Indicators
01:32:15 The Importance of Leading Measures
01:38:03 Engagement and Meaning in Leadership
01:48:01 The Power of Accountability
The discussion also tackles questions…
Key takeaways:
1. Great leaders move from achievement to legacy.
2. Sustainable success requires more than short-term wins.
3. Commitment always outperforms compliance.
4. Curiosity is one of the most powerful leadership skills.
5. Top talent leaves when their voice does not matter.
6. Empowerment creates stronger teams than delegation.
7. The fastest way to improve execution is to focus on what matters most.
8. Leaders should play to win, not play not to lose.
9. Culture determines whether people speak up or stay silent.
10. Every new level of leadership requires a new version of you.
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela sits down with Jessica Tracy, Certified Jungian Coach, consultant, speaker, and former corporate executive, to explore the hidden cost of high performance and why so many successful leaders find themselves battling anxiety, burnout, and a lingering sense that something is missing.
Jessica shares her personal journey from thriving in high-pressure corporate leadership roles to confronting the trauma, perfectionism, and need for external validation that were quietly driving her life. Together, Angela and Jessica discuss the warning signs leaders often ignore, the limitations of traditional approaches to mental health, and why self-awareness, creativity, rest, and inner work are becoming essential leadership skills.
The conversation dives into topics like shadow work, emotional regulation, workplace mental health, leadership blind spots, and how unresolved stress can impact not only individual performance but entire team cultures. Jessica also explains how Jungian psychology, archetypes, dream work, and alternative healing modalities can help leaders gain deeper insight into themselves and lead more consciously.
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Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, email [email protected].
In this special re-release of one of the most personal episodes in Badass Leaders Podcast history, Gia Ganesh takes over the host chair and turns the tables on Angela Gill Nelms.
Angela opens up about the experiences that shaped her leadership philosophy, from surviving an abusive childhood and becoming a single mother, to earning an engineering degree while raising a daughter with special needs, leading high-growth companies, and building a career centered on helping others reach their full potential.
Together, Angela and Gia explore the meaning behind "Be Brave. Be Badass.," the power of resilience, how to overcome perfectionism and imposter syndrome, what great leaders understand about conflict resolution, and why emotional intelligence matters more than raw talent.
As an added bonus, this episode features People Multiple host Gia Ganesh before the launch of her own podcast. Be sure to check out People Multiple, with the first three episodes available now.
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Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with Sam Smith, Co-Founder and CEO of Amissa Health, to unpack the massive gaps in women’s healthcare, the business opportunity behind menopause care, and the reality of building a startup in an industry most people still feel uncomfortable talking about.
Angela and Sam dive deep into the emotional reality of entrepreneurship, startup failure, fundraising as a female founder, healthcare innovation, AI in medicine, the hidden burden women carry in leadership, and why the future of healthcare depends on better data, better workflows, and better listening.
They also explore the business case for women’s health, why symptom tracking matters, how healthcare systems are failing both patients and clinicians, and what founders need to understand about resilience, timing, and learning through failure.
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
What if the biggest thing holding people back from success isn’t lack of skill — but the belief that they’re not worthy of a second chance?
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with Bonni Pomush, CEO of Working Wardrobes, for a powerful conversation about leadership, human dignity, confidence, and the systems that help people rebuild their lives.
Bonni shares her journey from a shy Arizona kid who often felt like an outsider to becoming the second CEO in Working Wardrobes’ 30+ year history. Along the way, she opens up about imposter syndrome, people-pleasing, learning to “wear your own damn shoes,” and why great leadership starts with truly seeing people as humans.
Together, Angela and Bonni explore what it takes to build high-performing teams without losing humanity, how data and empathy can coexist in leadership, and why nonprofit leadership is every bit as strategic and operationally complex as the corporate world.
The conversation also dives into the transformative work Working Wardrobes is doing to help people overcome barriers to employment — from career readiness and confidence building to supporting formerly incarcerated individuals re-entering the workforce with dignity and purpose.
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
What can fighter pilots teach us about leadership, trust, accountability, and high-performance teams?
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with former Blue Angels pilot, Navy fighter pilot, combat commander, and Top Gun: Maverick stunt pilot Scott “Intake” Kartvedt for a conversation about elite performance under pressure and the leadership lessons that apply far beyond aviation.
Scott shares stories from combat deployments, the Blue Angels, Hollywood film sets, and military leadership to break down how high-performing teams operate when mistakes carry real consequences. Together, Angela and Scott explore the importance of preparation, honest feedback, psychological safety, resilience, communication, and building cultures rooted in trust and accountability.
The conversation also dives into leadership development, decision-making under stress, learning from failure, surrounding yourself with the right people, and why many organizations struggle to create environments where people feel safe admitting mistakes.
From leading combat squadrons to working alongside Tom Cruise on Top Gun: Maverick and Mission Impossible, Scott reveals what elite teams understand about performance, discipline, and teamwork that every leader can apply.
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Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
Not every client is worth keeping—and the best leaders know when to walk away.
In this powerful compilation episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms brings together real stories from founders, executives, and operators who made one of the hardest decisions in business: firing a client.
From walking away from $30K/month in recurring revenue to cutting ties with million-dollar accounts, these leaders share what happens when values, respect, and alignment break down—and why protecting your team, culture, and long-term vision matters more than short-term profit.
You’ll hear firsthand how toxic client relationships impact team morale, decision-making, and growth—and how choosing boundaries over revenue often leads to better opportunities, stronger leadership credibility, and healthier businesses.
If you’ve ever questioned whether to hold onto a difficult client, this episode will challenge your thinking and give you the clarity (and courage) to act.
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When is it time to fire a client—even if they’re bringing in significant revenue?
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
What if the real reason you feel stuck isn’t your strategy, your team, or your execution—but your identity?
In this episode of the Badass Leaders Podcast, Angela Gill Nelms sits down with Hilary Porta, identity and performance expert, to unpack what actually drives leadership behavior, decision-making, and long-term success. This conversation goes beyond mindset and into the subconscious patterns, nervous system responses, and internal beliefs that quietly shape how leaders show up.
Hilary shares how high performers unknowingly sabotage their own growth, why traditional leadership development often falls short, and what it really takes to scale a business without losing yourself in the process.
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Production
Produced by: The AGN Group
Host: Angela Gill Nelms
Producer: Katie Hart
Tagline: Be Brave. Be Badass.
Websites: www.theagngroup.com and www.AngelaGillNelms.com
About The AGN Group:
At The AGN Group, we believe every individual, team, and company can unlock their inner badass, one brave step at a time. www.TheAGNGroup.com.
Social Media Channels:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/badassleaderspodcast/
Twitter: https://x.com/BALeadersPod
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@baleaderspod
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/badass-leaders-podcast2
Want to be a Podcast Guest?
If you are interested in being a guest on the podcast, read more here: https://www.angelagillnelms.com/be-our-guest/
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