Marriage takes teamwork—but it also takes fun. In this episode of Real Talk with Ben and Kimi, we dive into the balance between planning and spontaneity in marriage and family life. From swim nights with the kids to carving out time for date nights, we share real stories about how easy it is to give all your energy to your kids and forget to invest in your spouse.

You’ll hear us talk about:

• Why some spouses are natural planners and others thrive on spontaneity

• How to bring the same playful energy you give your kids back into your marriage

• Practical (and funny) ideas for keeping your relationship fresh

• The importance of dates, downtime, and biblical wisdom for lasting love

Whether you’re the schedule keeper, the spontaneous adventurer, or somewhere in between—this episode will encourage you to plan to win together while still leaving room for fun.

👉 If you want to strengthen your marriage, grow closer as parents, and laugh along the way, this conversation is for you.