<p class="p1">As the year spirals out, Alex and Martin Benes talk about how Trumpworld splinters, and the conspiracies fade—but the ballroom gets built. They talk fractures, fixation, and the quiet realization that nothing makes sense, except Trumpian priorities.</p>

As the year spirals out, Alex and Martin Benes talk about how Trumpworld splinters, and the conspiracies fade—but the ballroom gets built. They talk fractures, fixation, and the quiet realization that nothing makes sense, except Trumpian priorities.

<p>As the year spirals out, Alex and Martin Benes talk about how Trumpworld splinters, and the conspiracies fade—but the ballroom gets built. They talk fractures, fixation, and the quiet realization that nothing makes sense, except Trumpian priorities.</p>

Ballroom First, Reality Later (with Martin Benes)

Alex Kopytko is a ”radical centrist” that wants to understand the extremes. He has worked in politics and has studied public policy and political science. Alex argues that centrism is less about being a contrarian, it is about being able to change your mind and embrace an openness to new ideas. He is concerned about where the United States is headed and through conversations with people from all sides of the political spectrum, he wants to know how Americans can limit the tribalism that is flourishing. As someone that dances along the center-right of the political spectrum, Alex thinks the country needs to come together and talk to one another before it could be too late. This podcast covers domestic politics, as well as political philosophy, and international issues.

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