Will Jerome Hettel of Constructs joins his former bandmate, and our host John Pagliassotti on the show to discuss The Joy of Motion by Animals as Leaders, the progressive metal band’s third studio album released by Sumerian Records. Will, also known for his work as the live drummer for slenderbodies, and as the drummer for bands like House of Wolves and The Real Savage Henry gives us a lesson on polyrhythms, jazz fusion, and djent while swigging several servings of wine. Want to hear some classic drummer jokes? Or perhaps understand the musical meme that is “the lick”? This is the pod for you, friend. Grab a drink and play along, drink whenever Will says a buzzword!