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  • Episode 161: Mario Benjamin & Chaz Hubbard of Hella Coastal & Comedian Karinda Dobbins (recorded at Federation Brewing, Oakland, CA)
    Host Ben Rice travels to Federation Brewing in Oakland, CA, to talk with Hella Coastal's Mario Benjamin & Chaz Hubbard and comedian Karinda Dobbins. We discuss Hella Coastal's alternating proprietorship arrangement with Federation and how that differs from contract brewing, aiming to become the first Black-owned brewery in Oakland and why loudly and proudly stating that is important, as well as the importance of visual storytelling. Plus! Karinda's debut album Black and Blue (available now on Blonde Medicine), Louisiana gumbo do's and don't's, changing generational thought, and beating your children at Mario Kart. All this and more, on the latest episode of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Find out more about Hella Coastal @ www.hellacoastal.com or follow them across social media @hellacoasta (Venmo hella-coastal)
    Be sure to check out Karinda's new album Black & Blue wherever you get your albums, or find it on Blonde Medicine (vinyl available!). And of course, follow Karinda @karinadobbins (Venmo Karinda-Dobbins)
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-regularly on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for various local and national charities with goals of making our world a better place. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    It's now been 9+ months since Brienne Allen's revelations about the beer industry's treatment of women and minorities. If you have stories about change (or lack thereof), please submit them (anonymously if you wish) and your story may be featured on a future episode. Simply go to https://forms.gle/2QNebCn7NHHjsEbg6
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 29 min
  • Episode 160: Art Moye of Full Circle Brewing & Comedian Ta'Vi
    Host Ben Rice sits down with Art Moye, the owner of Full Circle Brewing in Fresno, CA and Ta'Vi, comedian and co-host of the podcast It's Crazy You're In My Business, at SacYard Community Taphouse in Sacramento to discuss Full Circle's eight Black History Month collaborations with black brewers and tastemakers across the United States. (Hint: they're doing a full event, including the collaborators, at Full Circle on February 19, so stop in!) Plus! Comedy! Accounting! Surprise cider side projects! Spicy foods! And Ta'Vi tries a sour for the first time ever. It's quick, it's dirty, it's in the midst of a comedy show, and Art could not be more inviting as we challenge palates and change minds. Enjoy!
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Got guest/brewery ideas or questions? Email Ben at [email protected] or [email protected]
    Also, during the ongoing COVID crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos regularly on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Also, it's been over six months since the @ratmagnet stories about sexism, racism, and homophobia in the beer industry has come to light. We're looking for things you're seeing in the industry, positive or negative, since then. Submit anonymously online and your answers may be read on a future episode of Barley & Me. https://forms.gle/2QNebCn7NHHjsEbg6
    Intro Music: “JamRoc” by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Alternate Intro Music (not featured in this episode): “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    Thanks so much for listening.
    40 min
  • Episode 159: New Year, Old Beer (At Campus Brewing w/ Corky McDonnell & Paulina Olivares)
    Host Ben Rice travels to Campus Brewing in West Sacramento to complete his 2021 recap/2022 preview episode with his Barley & Me Presents: Leonard Malting co-hosts Corky McDonnell (Dare Daniel Podcast) and Paulina Olivares (Pink Boots Society/Drake's). Alas, by the time you hear this, Campus will be no more, as the cards were stacked against it. And that's kinda the vibe here, as we all brought a beer that was at least one year old, starting strong with Corky's pick of Great Divide Barrel Aged Yeti, sliding back to reality with one of COVID's early victims, San Leandro's Cleophus Quealy's barrel aged farmhouse ale Dark Horse, then ruining the reality of love with Paulina's pick, a Pliny the Younger TIPA bottled on 2/14/2020. From the best of bestiality (jokes) to the secret joys of colonoscopies, this episode shines a light on the absurdity that has been our past two years, with a sarcastic and, sadly, dejected eye on 2022. Oh, and we have two secret additional beers you need to tune in to find out about, because we've learned at least one thing from this experience. So sit back, relax, and accept the absolute clusterfuck that is episode 159 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Alas, by the time this airs, Campus Brewing will be no more, but find David Weiss and Peter Halldorf on social media to see what they're up to next.
    Corky McDonnell can be found on the Dare Daniel Podcast (@daredanielpod) or on his new furniture restoration project @lemonade_furniture)
    Paulina Olivares is a goddamn delight - find her IG @holapaulina
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    Barley & Me is also accepting stories about the change (or lack thereof) in the beer industry since @ratmagnet's story went viral over 6 months ago - submit anonymously at https://forms.gle/2QNebCn7NHHjsEbg6
    You can also support change in diversity, equality, and inclusion in the craft alcohol industry via www.bravenoisebeer.com
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 46 min
  • Episode 158: New Baby, Same Craft Culture
    Host Ben Rice recaps what is going on in his life, including a new child and too many comedy shows. But most importantly, he is seeking feedback about the ramifications of Brienne Allen's Instagram Story from 6 months ago that went viral and led to an increased awareness in the (mis)treatment of minorities, women, and LGBTQIA+ members of the craft beer/wine/spirits industry. Instead of featuring a roundtable of locals, Ben is calling for stories near and far, so if you have stories/feedback about before/during/after those revelations, please check out the link below. Your story may be shared on a future episode. In the meantime, be better, demand better, and have a safe and happy holiday season. Cheers!
    Submit your feedback/story: https://forms.gle/2QNebCn7NHHjsEbg6
    I do invite you to share this link with people who have experienced/witnessed, hell, even performed, these issues.
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod
    Got questions/suggestions? Email me at [email protected] or [email protected]
    Also, during this COVID crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben was also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it. You can also donate directly.
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Additional Music (not featured in this episode): "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    7 min
  • Episode 157: Troy Robinson of Quirk Brewing & Phil Neumann of Mainstem Malt
    Host Ben Rice travels (digitally) to Walla Walla, Washington, simply for an excuse to say Walla Walla, Washington over and over again. While there, he also manages to interview Troy Robinson of Quirk Brewing and Phil Neumann of Mainstem Malt about locally-sourced, salmon-safe ingredients in Quirk-y craft beers (and more streamlined ones as well, stream/salmon pun intentional), as well as the challenges of being deemed "organic", and getting local farmers to buy in on craft beer. Plus! Mainstem's fundraising campaign through WeFunder (ends November 18th! Buy in for as little as $100!), malt-chewing ASMR, spineless beers, and Ben's attempt to solve the out-of-state distribution law issues using this one clever trick! All this and so much more, on episode 157 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Find out more about the beers and activities at Quirk Brewing by going to www.quirkbrewing.com or following them across social media @quirkbrewing
    Visit www.mainstemmalt.com to learn more about the craft malt movement or www.wefunder.com/mainstemmalt to buy shares.
    And of course, if you're interested, go to www.craftmalting.com to find out more about their upcoming annual conference in Portland, Maine, in February 2022.
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Do you have a story about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transphobia in the beer industry? You can submit your story anonymously, to be read on a future episode of Barley & Me at https://forms.gle/SmDuBT3zGKxNCVZ757
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 18 min
  • Episode 156: Jim Noss & Matt Risse of LogOff Brewing
    Host Ben Rice travels to Rancho Cordova, CA, to talk to owners Jim Noss & Matt Risse about opening a brewery during a global pandemic, celebrating an anniversary and even expanding during said pandemic, and fighting for space in the craft beer market as things start to return to normal. We also discuss the need for more alcohol in professional sports, their upcoming collabs with Slugfest Games and Thick Vatos, perfect pop punk albums, and their new comedy nights starring Joey "Joseph" Stults! Plus! Jim's tie to a controversial World Series moment! Wart Hog Road Trips! And a bold new trivia championship belt! All this and more, on episode 156 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Find out more about the beers and events at LogOff Brewing, and their LogOff tips, @logoffbrewing
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Do you have a story about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transphobia in the beer industry? You can submit your story anonymously, to be read on a future episode of Barley & Me at https://forms.gle/SmDuBT3zGKxNCVZ757
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 9 min
  • Episode 155: People's Harvest Time Jubilee/Brew Your Story w/ Rodg Little & Geoff Scott of Oak Park Brewing/People's Beer Co.
    Host Ben Rice travels to the Oak Park area of Sacramento to talk to Oak Park Brewing/People's Beer Co. brewers Rodg Little and Geoff Scott about the first annual People's Harvest Time Jubilee, taking place at 30 black-owned breweries across the world, with the kickoff at OPB on Saturday, October 2. Plus! Brew Your Story, an event inside the event, and the beers they're brewing for this, including a collaboration with past guest D Neal of Beer Talk Now. We also tell our own stories, about finding beer, getting into the craft beer industry, and even finding love. Which of course leads to a very important question: what kind of beer education do you give your children and how? Plus! Coffee education! Accidental IPA! And catchphrase creation! All this and more, on episode 155 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Find out more about People's Beer Co. at www.peoplesbeerco.com
    Check out the People's Harvest Time Jubilee kickoff at Oak Park Brewing in Sacramento on Saturday, October 2. Get tickets at the venue or on eventbrite.com!
    Get more info about the event and Brew Your Story @brewyourstory on IG
    Follow Oak Park Brewing across social media @opbrewco and People's Beer @peoplesbeerco
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Do you have a story about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transphobia in the beer industry? You can submit your story anonymously, to be read on a future episode of Barley & Me at https://forms.gle/SmDuBT3zGKxNCVZ757
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 22 min
  • Episode 154: Author Tara Nurin + Herlinda Heras (Brew HaHa) & Melissa McCann (Women's International Beer Summit)
    Host Ben Rice travels to Urban Roots Brewing in Sacramento, CA, to speak with beer journalist and author Tara Nurin about her new book (out now on Chicago Review Press - use promo code BarleyAndMe25 to receive 25% off) A Woman's Place Is In the Brewhouse: A Forgotten History of Alewives, Brewsters, Witches and CEOs, as well as co-host of KRSO's Brew HaHa drive time radio show, Herlinda Heras, and the founder of the Women's International Beer Summit, Melissa McCann. We talk Tara's exhaustive research and travel for this book, the shockingly overlooked and underreported number of women involved in the founding of the modern American craft beer movement, Brienne Allan's hard push for equality in the craft brew space, and some interesting beer history. Plus! Herlinda's tremendous resume outside of beer, Melissa downplays her involvement AGAIN, and Tara tracks down the unfindable. All this and more, on episode 154 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Go to www.chicagoreviewpress.com/ to purchase A Woman's Place Is In the Brewhouse. Use promo code BarleyAndMe25 to receive 25% off!
    Follow Tara Nurin @taranurin or go to the newly-revamped taranurin.com for more info!
    Check out Herlinda Heras @beergolfgirl or check out her radio show Brew Ha Ha wherever you get your podcasts or at brewhaharadio.com
    Melissa McCann is @obeer1kenobe on Instagram, but would probably prefer you check out www.wcfa.beer or follow @womensintlbeersummit for more info on that illustrious home brew competition and beer summit.
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Do you have a story about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transphobia in the beer industry? You can submit your story anonymously, to be read on a future episode of Barley & Me at https://forms.gle/SmDuBT3zGKxNCVZ757
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 3 min
  • Episode 153: Erik Schmid of Red Bus Brewing & Comedian Shahera Hyatt
    Host Ben Rice travels to Folsom, CA, to sit down with Red Bus Brewing owner/brewer/minibus enthusiast Erik Schmidt and comedian/activist/Moving Van Show host/co-creator Shahera Hyatt to discuss the intricacies of beer and wine, Oktoberfest, and the 5th anniversary of Shahera's roaming outdoor Moving Van Show. Plus! Running a home brew supply shop and a brewery at the same time, the art of macro lager vs the excitement of craft beer, a letter from a beloved smoothie company, and Erik's favorite local haunts. All this and more, on episode 153 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Find out more about Red Bus Brewing @redbusbrew
    Follow Shahera Hyatt @shaherazhad and find the Moving Van Show monthly @movingvanshow
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Do you have a story about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transphobia in the beer industry? You can submit your story anonymously, to be read on a future episode of Barley & Me at https://forms.gle/SmDuBT3zGKxNCVZ757
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 55 min
  • Episode 152: Kelly Meyer of New Braunfels Brewing & Music Journalist Aaron Carnes
    Host Ben Rice travels (digitally) to New Braunfels, Texas, and Sacramento, CA to interview Kelly Meyer of New Braunfels Brewing and music journalist Aaron Carnes. We talk about their approaches to their new books (Kelly is the author of "How NOT To Start a Damn Brewery," which just released an updated version, while Aaron recently released his first book "In Defense of Ska"). We also talk about their podcasts, which share the name of their books, respectively. Plus! Ska history! The challenges of entering the craft beer industry in 2021! Comfort levels! And who's really buying books right now? Plus! Beer swears, national distribution, and the desperate search for more beer/book/podcast customers. All this and more, on episode 153 of Barley & Me. Enjoy!
    Follow New Braunfels Brewing @nbbrew
    Follow Kelly's book/podcast "How NOT To Start A Damn Brewery" wherever you get your podcasts or on IG @hownottostartadamnbrewery
    BUY THAT BOOK at https://www.amazon.com/How-NOT-start-Brewery-Business-ebook/dp/B0848VRW18
    Check out Aaron Carnes at aaroncarnes.substack.com
    Follow Aaron's book/podcast/Spotify playlist "In Defense of Ska" @indefenseofska
    BUY THAT BOOK at https://www.clashbooks.com/new-products-2/aaron-carnes-in-defense-of-ska
    Barley & Me can be found across social media @barleyandmepod. Email questions/comments/concerns/guest ideas/brewery ideas to [email protected] or [email protected]
    And be sure to learn more about the Black Is Beautiful Initiative, as featured in Episode 129 with Marcus Baskerville of Weathered Souls Brewing, at www.blackisbeautiful.beer
    Get your merch or make donations at www.customink.com/fundraising/black-is-beautiful-initiative
    Also, during this crisis, 100% of profits from sales of Barley & Me shirts via Zen-Threads.com will go to Another Round, Another Rally, a charity that supports front- and back-of-house members of the service industry whose wages and benefits may be affected. So grab a shirt and help a good cause and people you love! https://zen-threads.com/collections/beer-wine/products/barley-and-me-podcast-mens-crew-tee?fbclid=IwAR1G_5HJ3NCoWTRgmG6Q2PVALEiJsb1KtHClCaDli0NhsjZsc4KPmWCp_os
    Ben is also posting #Chugs4Charity videos semi-daily on Instagram (@barleyandmepod), to help raise funds for those affected by this shutdown. You can Venmo Ben ($comedianbenrice) or hit his PayPal (@barleyandmepod) and all money will go to support the NAACP, ACLU, Black Lives Matter, and other civil rights helpers. Charities will change with the times and as emergencies arise. But the point is: all donations will go to help those who need it.
    Do you have a story about racism, sexism, homophobia, or transphobia in the beer industry? You can submit your story anonymously, to be read on a future episode of Barley & Me at https://forms.gle/SmDuBT3zGKxNCVZ757
    Intro Music: “Functional Alcoholism” by Be Brave Bold Robot (@bebraveboldrobot)
    Interstitial Music: "JamRoc" by Breez (@breeztheartist)
    Logo by Jessica DiMesio (@alchemistqueen)
    1 hr 27 min

About Barley & Me

From the publisher's feed

Sacramento's Ben Rice travels to breweries and has conversations with the makers of your favorite beers and the people who drink them. Spoiler Alert: The beer dies at the end.