World-renowned New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman is one of Matt’s actual real-life heroes— and somehow that isn’t even his greatest achievement. Bart has written over 30 books, including 6 New York Times Bestsellers, many of which focus on the origins of Christianity, how and why it spread so far and wide, and what Bart calls ‘the historical Jesus’— as in Jesus Christ the man, not Jesus Christ the messiah. Listen as Matt asks Bart everything he’s ever wanted to ask him — from what Jesus was really like, to why people of the time were so ready to adopt the ideas that early Christians were spreading — and Bart takes Matt on an in-depth tour of his upcoming book, ‘Heaven & Hell: A History Of The Afterlife’, which chronicles our collective ideas of heaven and hell, from their infancy (well before the time of Jesus) all the way up to today. Seriously, go on and hit ‘Play’— this one’s fucking biblical, man.