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Alright, you curious, you courageous Herle Burly-ites. It was about one year ago that the federal government got serious about housing and undertook a flurry of announcements. Provinces all have plans to build more homes. Interest rates are now falling. Good news right? We're going to check in with our housing experts, Ron Butler and Mike Moffatt to see if there's been any real progress. Hint: "We're bathing in the water of housing desperation" ... so there's that!

Mike Moffatt is an Assistant Professor in Business, Economics, and Public Policy at Ivey Business School, Western. He’s also the Senior Director of Policy at the University of Ottawa’s Smart Prosperity Institute. His current area of research is on Canada’s housing supply and affordability crisis. He’s authored many research reports, made hundreds of media appearances from TVO’s The Agenda to CBC’s The National. His team’s work has led to several public policy changes at all levels of government. And in 2023, he was named one of the most influential people in Ontario real estate.

Ron Butler is a near 30-year veteran of the mortgage industry and one of its most prominent names. He’s the founder, and a principal, of discount brokerage Butler Mortgage Inc and he’s a hugely outspoken voice on the Twitter-verse on the subject. A few months ago, he launched his own weekly show — “Angry Mortgage Podcast” — to share his insights, and vitriol, on the subject.

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