Bible News Prophecy with Dr Bob Thiel

Continuing Church of God 63

AI-Made Viruses, the Fourth Horseman, and the Coming Mark of the Beast with Dr. Bob Thiel

Dr. Bob Thiel joins host Steve Dupuis to weigh reports of AI-engineered viruses and rogue artificial intelligence, tying them to Bible prophecies of pestilence, the fourth horseman, and a coming digital mark of the beast.

AI's Biological Threat Emerges

Steve Dupuis opens the Bible News Prophecy program by asking Dr. Bob Thiel whether artificial intelligence poses real risks to humanity. Thiel points to a recent headline warning that AI's greatest threat is biological, noting that an Anthropic researcher who resigned believes there is roughly a 10 percent chance AI could wipe out humanity within three to ten years, an estimate other researchers have echoed. Thiel says the article's greater alarm is over biological warfare and synthetic biology, warning that AI-assisted science could eventually produce a virus lethal to people whether vaccinated or not. Dupuis presses further, asking how close AI actually is to creating a genuine bioweapon risk, setting up Thiel's account of a specific Stanford-linked study that turned that abstract worry into a documented result, which he describes as no real surprise given that humans have pursued similar biological research for decades even without artificial intelligence's help.

Stanford Study Creates New Viruses

Thiel tells Dupuis that last month a report described AI creating 16 new viruses that never existed in nature, after the system learned patterns from nine trillion nucleotides in research associated with Stanford University. He explains that scientists have synthesized viruses for decades to study disease and pursue medical advances, but artificial intelligence now lets them generate viral genomes unlike anything found naturally. Thiel reads a line from the researchers themselves, that the ability to compose viral genomes using generative AI now exists while the governance to safely steer it does not. Dupuis asks whether this research is simply a hopeful step toward medical progress, and Thiel answers cautiously, recalling that COVID is presumed by some to have originated from a lab pursuing similarly well-intentioned work. He warns that a rogue AI program could misuse such techniques, and notes that turning biological agents into weapons has never been difficult for determined nations, the United States included, despite official denials of biological weapons programs.

A History of Biological Warfare

Thiel widens the discussion by reading from a 1969 article by the late Church of God evangelist Raymond McNair, titled The Doomsday Bug, which described a feverish international search for germs and chemicals capable of wiping out whole nations overnight. Thiel recounts McNair's tour of a chemical and biological warfare laboratory and his history of the practice, from poisoned arrows and poisoned water supplies to catapulting plague-infected corpses over besieged city walls and, in colonial America, trading plague-infected blankets to Native Americans. Dupuis asks about the scale of historical viruses and plagues, and Thiel cites the Black Death killing roughly a third of Europe, with three-quarters dead in some regions, plus a Cold War-era claim that one gram of Q fever-inoculated chicken embryo could infect more than a million people. He adds that 20 million people died of flu at the close of World War I, with fifty times that number falling ill.

Crops as Weapons, Pestilence as Prophecy

Thiel describes how chemical and biological warfare has also targeted economies rather than armies directly, recalling that the highest US civilian award once given went to a woman who developed a deadly rice blast fungus usable against rice-dependent nations like China or North Vietnam, while Russian scientists developed a wheat rust capable of striking American crops. He argues scientists bear real responsibility for developing microbes that could unleash horrifying epidemics. Turning to scripture, Thiel cites Jesus's words in Matthew 24:7 that famines, pestilences, and earthquakes mark the beginning of sorrows, then reads Revelation 6:7-8, where the fourth seal releases a pale horse whose rider, Death, kills across a fourth of the earth by sword, hunger, and plague. Dupuis asks directly whether AI-developed pathogens could be part of that fourth horseman's ride, and Thiel answers unequivocally yes, tying the ancient prophecy to modern biotechnology's unfolding capabilities.

Digital Wallets and a Coming Mark

Asked what other risks AI presents, Thiel turns to finance, warning that AI programs may increasingly break into financial systems and drain accounts as world commerce grows more digital. He predicts a European leader could respond by proposing a biometric system to prevent such AI-driven economic disasters, noting that all 27 European Union nations must offer residents a digital wallet holding identification and driver's license information on their phones by the end of 2026. Thiel suggests that system may prove insufficient, and speculates a future leader could push a more secure mark involving the right hand or forehead for safer buying and selling. Dupuis asks whether this lines up with biblical prophecy, and Thiel reads Revelation 13:15-18, describing the image of the beast compelling everyone, small and great, rich and poor, to receive a mark permitting commerce, identified by the number 666, which he says today's computing and AI technology could finally make enforceable.

Peace, Safety, and a Warning

Thiel notes that Europe's digital wallet remains voluntary for now, but predicts the eventual mark will not be. He reads 1 Thessalonians 5:3's warning that sudden destruction comes when people declare peace and safety, and argues the coming beast power will sell its system, likely involving AI, as protection from rogue technology and economic chaos, a carrot-and-stick approach that grows more coercive over time until it is finally forced on everyone. Thiel says he is fairly certain that guarding against AI risks will be among the system's advertised benefits. He concludes that AI will likely help both create pestilences and persuade people toward the mark of the beast, though scripture promises God will intervene before humanity destroys itself, per Matthew 24:21. Citing Revelation 16:2's warning of punishment for those who take the mark, Thiel urges listeners not to be persuaded, and Dupuis closes by directing listeners to biblenewsprophecy.net.

One Voice with Dr Pastor Larry Montgomery

16 Providence of God

Providence in the Book of Job: The Blow, the Blessing, and the God Who Never Sleeps

Dr. Pastor Larry Montgomery continues his providence series by preaching through the Book of Job, tracing Satan's challenge in heaven, the sudden loss of Job's family and fortune, and the restoration that follows when Job prays for the friends who accused him.

Introducing Job, the Greatest Man in the East

Dr. Pastor Larry Montgomery opens the message by turning the congregation to the Book of Job, calling it one of his favorite books in the Bible and promising to trace God's providence through it. He reads from chapter one, describing Job as a man who is "perfect," upright, and one who fears God and turns from evil. He walks through Job's family and possessions, seven sons, three daughters, seven thousand sheep, three thousand camels, five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she-asses, noting that scripture calls Job the greatest man of the east. Montgomery emphasizes that Job's children are godly, fasting and praying, and that Job regularly offers sacrifices on their behalf in case they have sinned. He holds Job up as a model of a man who honors God with what he has been given, setting the stage for a message he says will cover both "the blow" and "the blessing" of God's providence in Job's life.

Satan Challenges God Over Job

Montgomery moves to the heavenly scene in chapter one, where Satan comes among the sons of God to present himself before the Lord. God asks Satan where he has come from, and Satan answers that he has been going to and fro in the earth, a detail Montgomery uses to remind the congregation that the devil is never idle, comparing him to the New Testament's roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. When God asks Satan whether he has considered Job, Satan accuses God of protecting Job with a hedge, arguing that Job's faithfulness would collapse without it. God allows Satan to test Job, and Montgomery pauses to make a larger point: that Job's story matters so much to heaven that a conversation about him takes place there before anything happens to him, and that nothing can touch a believer's life except what God permits.

A Nation That Has Forgotten God

Before returning to Job's story, Montgomery turns his attention to the present day, arguing that Americans, like Job, have been richly blessed but increasingly fail to honor God for it. He says the country removed God from its schools and now suffers for it, declaring that anyone who holds many secular degrees but does not know Jesus Christ is, in his words, "a spiritual idiot." He warns that the pulpits themselves have become mouthpieces for another gospel and another spirit, and that the nation is already living under God's judgment. He points to politicians using climate change to strip away personal freedoms, control over food and farming, and rising taxes he believes are designed to make it impossible for ordinary people to keep their homes and land. Montgomery contrasts this drift with Job's family, who recognized "the God of glory" their parents and grandparents knew, framing America's spiritual decline as a warning before he returns to Job's unfolding trial.

The Blow Falls on Job's House

Montgomery returns to Job chapter one, describing the messengers who arrive in quick succession to report that Job's oxen and camels have been stolen or destroyed, and finally that all ten of his children have died together when a great wind collapsed the house they were feasting in. He marvels that Job, stripped of everything in a single breath, does not curse God but instead declares, "Naked came I out of the womb, and naked shall I return... the Lord hath given, and the Lord hath taken away, blessed be the name of the Lord." Montgomery calls this response almost unimaginable, admitting he doubts he could say the same words in Job's place. He reminds the congregation that providence, as he preached the week before, includes both light and darkness, and that Job's blessed life has now given way to devastating loss, even as heaven's earlier conversation about him continues to govern everything that happens.

No Accidents in a Believer's Life

Montgomery builds a theology of providence from Job's suffering, insisting that nothing happens to a believer by accident because God is of one mind and already knows and has planned the end from the beginning. He recalls telling a class of seminary students that there has never been an accident in a believer's life, watching the room go silent at the claim, and argues listeners should call their own crashes "mishaps" rather than accidents, since God's plan runs through them regardless. He shares his father's words after Montgomery survived having a car "beat out from under him": "Son, we can replace the car, but we can't replace you." He then turns to Job's three friends, who arrive claiming to comfort Job but instead accuse him of hidden sin and hypocrisy, wounding him further. Montgomery holds up Job's refusal to blame God, even under those accusations, as the standard he wants the congregation to imitate in their own hard providences.

Restoration, Job's Daughters, and a Storm Over Vietnam

The sermon closes in Job chapter forty-two, where God tells Job's accusing friends he will not forgive them until Job prays for them, and Job does. Montgomery describes God then doubling Job's flocks and camels, restoring his ten children, and giving his three new daughters, Jemima, Keziah, and Keren-happuch, striking names Montgomery jokes the congregation should consider for their own children. He revisits and partly revises an earlier, harsher sermon about Job's wife telling Job to "curse God and die," conceding that commentators see her words as born of grief rather than malice. He ends with a personal story from flying patrols over the Tonkin Gulf, when a young airman who had stopped believing in God cried out to him during a violent storm, only to admit afterward that "in a case like that, everybody believes in God." Montgomery closes by inviting the congregation to stand together, trusting that God's providence, however painful, is always working toward their good.

Apple Pie Playground with Valerie

Title: The Sacred Geometry of What Sustains Us

What sustains us? Can sacred geometry offer the answer? Let's talk.

Synergy, Sacred Geometry, and the Dodecahedron Inside the Atomic Bomb

Valerie leads a solo hour on Apple Pie Playground tracing the idea of synergy from sacred geometry and the Earth's energy grid to the dodecahedron shape she says was built into the core of the first atomic bomb, closing with a look at artificial intelligence and the value of imperfection.

A Mystery Of What Sustains Us

Valerie opens Apple Pie Playground by welcoming listeners to what she calls the place where the divine child gathers, and she thanks BBS Radio for gathering with her. She frames the hour around a mystery to solve together, asking whether the natural world, in its makeup and geometry, sustains and balances humanity more than most people realize. She promises the discussion will be practical though a little immersive, and she questions whether raising the collective vibration of humanity is really about politics and taxes or something deeper tied to sacred geometry. She suggests many listeners are, in her words, true energy grid workers, part of the sacred geometric grid system of the planet, here to anchor their energies into the ground for the general benefit of everybody. Everything, she says, is interdependent and co-creating, from the smallest blade of grass to a vast ocean, all of it depending on humans to honor, undermine, or destroy it. She closes the opening by asking the question that will guide the whole hour: what sustains us.

Synergy As The Antidote To Separation

Valerie turns to a word she says she thought she understood until she heard it used as a mechanics of sacred geometry: synergy. She defines it as the integration of every part into a whole whose power becomes greater than the sum of its parts, and she asks whether the grandest scheme of the dark against humanity was to introduce loneliness and separation, convincing people they are apart from God, from each other, and from themselves. She insists broken hearts are real, and that synergy takes imperfect and mending hearts and pulls them into a perfect whole, a message she attributes to Christ. She argues people miss that message by setting Christ apart as a perfect, martyred role model instead of recognizing his teaching was about synergy, about becoming perfected rather than perfect, about multiplying outcomes rather than adding them. She references loaves and fishes as an example of that multiplying power, and frames going inward as the way each person finds their sovereign responsibility to unify with spirit.

The Sacred Geometry Of The Dodecahedron

Valerie moves into concrete territory, introducing the Hermetic principle as above, so below, which she describes as the macrocosm and microcosm unifying into a greater whole. She explains a sacred geometric form called the dodecahedron, a Platonic solid with twelve flat faces, and says that when two dodecahedra are combined they represent the essential quality of life force itself, holding within their mathematics all the natural elements of the periodic table. She tells listeners the Earth itself is built on this dodecahedral geometry and its dual solid, a shape she says creates a resonance that stabilizes and harmonizes etheric, or life force, energy. She links this to what she calls the Poincaré dodecahedral space model from quantum mechanics, describing ether as a kind of glue for existence at every scale. She notes research into this planetary energy grid dates to the 1970s in Russia and continued study in the United States in the 1980s, and she encourages listeners to research Platonic solids and sacred geometry further on their own.

Trinity, Oppenheimer, And The Bomb

Valerie brings the discussion to a concrete and, in her words, disturbing example: the Trinity site in New Mexico, used for testing weapons technology in the Manhattan Project. She describes the scientists behind that project as men of letters and learning, well versed in philosophy, poetry, and ancient knowledge, who understood exactly what they were doing. She recounts that on August 9th, 1945, the bomb known as Fat Man was dropped on Nagasaki, Japan, and quotes J. Robert Oppenheimer's response upon witnessing its power, a line he drew from the Bhagavad Gita: now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds. She also repeats his description of the reaction among the staff who watched, some laughing, some crying, most silent. Valerie ties that moment directly to the American policy that followed for the rest of the twentieth century and into the twenty-first, mutually assured destruction, and asks listeners what the absolute polar opposite of synergy could be if not that very doctrine of mutual annihilation.

A Disturbing Discovery Inside Fat Man

Valerie shares what she calls a disturbing discovery credited to a researcher she names as Dr. Robert Gilbert, who studied photographs and files of the Fat Man bomb technology and found that its inner core was built from dodecahedron geometry, the same sacred shape she has just described as a vessel for life force energy. She asks why the men of the Manhattan Project would choose that particular geometry for a weapon of mass destruction, and she connects the doctrine of mutual assured destruction back to her opening theme, calling it the polar opposite of synergy and comparing it to the destruction of Atlantis, which she says some attribute to forces on the planet and others to forces from off-planet. She describes humanity as still carrying the damage of these histories in what she calls subconscious suitcases, unpacked slowly to understand grief, trauma, and fear. She frames the choice between mutual destruction and human synergy as a decision repeated across ages, one she hopes listeners will one day remember making differently.

Imperfection, AI, And Coming Home

As the hour closes, Valerie adds what she calls a piece of food for thought: the same dodecahedron geometric structures used in her discussion of Earth and the atomic bomb are, she says, elemental forms used in the nanotechnology behind artificial intelligence design, helping simulate and optimize how light and electricity move through hardware. She suggests the synthetic world is searching for the life force of light, and that people assist that process every time they pick up their phones. She pivots to her closing message, telling listeners they do not need to be perfect in an imperfect, ever-changing material world, and that the real work is looking inward to an essence that serves the unifying whole. She encourages listeners not to fear trying, failing, or starting over, since effort itself, multiplied by the whole of collective hearts, is what perfects everyone together. Valerie thanks BBS Radio and her listeners by name before signing off, and the pre-recorded announcer closes the show, inviting everyone back to the playground the following Sunday.

The King Is Coming with Jeff Kinley

Revelation's Guide to Knowing God, Episode 3: The Wrath of God in the Tribulation

Jeff Kinley continues his series Revelation's Guide to Knowing God by examining the wrath of God poured out during the tribulation in Revelation chapters 6 through 18, tracing the seal, trumpet, and bowl judgments and explaining why even God's wrath is cause for gratitude and worship.

A New Book and a New Series

Jeff Kinley opens The King Is Coming by previewing his new book, God's Grand Finale: Wrath, Grace, and Glory in Earth's Final Days, explaining that he walks through the entire Book of Revelation to highlight thirteen attributes of God rather than simply forecasting future events. He also revisits As It Was in the Days of Noah, the book he first published in 2014 that reached the top of Amazon's prophecy category and led to appearances on national programs such as Fox & Friends and The Glenn Beck Show. Kinley says the book's warnings about a coming global storm feel even more relevant today, and notes that he has updated it with two new chapters. He then reintroduces the umbrella series Revelation's Guide to Knowing God, reminding listeners that a previous episode covered the sovereign, occupied throne of God in Revelation chapter 4, and that today's episode turns toward the darker judgments described later in the book.

Where the Church Stands During the Tribulation

Kinley argues that chapters 6 through 18 of Revelation form a parenthesis describing a future tribulation period, and he lays out his case that believers are removed from earth before it begins in a pre-tribulational rapture. He points to 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 1 Thessalonians 5:9, and Revelation 3:10 as promises that Christians will be kept from the coming hour of testing. As evidence, he traces the word church through Revelation, noting it appears roughly nineteen times in chapters 1 through 3, vanishes completely from chapters 6 through 18, and returns once in chapter 22, while the saints are shown gathered in heaven around the twenty-four elders during the judgment chapters. Kinley connects this absence to 2 Thessalonians 2, explaining that the Holy Spirit's unique restraining of sin, not his presence, is lifted before the Antichrist appears, warning that the rapture will unleash a sudden surge of evil once that restraint is gone.

Five Faces of God's Wrath

Kinley outlines five expressions of divine wrath found throughout scripture. Catastrophic wrath describes sudden judgments like Noah's flood or the plagues on Egypt. Harvest wrath, drawn from Galatians 6:7, reflects the principle that people reap what they sow. Everlasting wrath refers to the eternal lake of fire described in Revelation 14 and 20, where Kinley stresses that God himself, not Satan, presides over the torment of the unrepentant. Abandonment wrath, taken from Romans 1, occurs when God repeatedly gives a person or nation over to their own depraved choices after continual rejection, closing off any further reaching out. Kinley says Revelation 14 shows this same abandonment happening to those who take the mark of the beast during the tribulation. The fifth and final category, end times wrath, is the specific series of end-of-age judgments recorded in Revelation chapters 6 through 18, which becomes the focus of the rest of the teaching.

Why Talk About God's Wrath

Before detailing the judgments, Kinley explains why he chooses to preach on such an unpopular subject. He gives three reasons: wrath runs throughout scripture from Genesis to Revelation, so it deserves attention; wrath is itself an attribute of God, standing alongside love, mercy, and holiness because a truly righteous God must punish sin; and confronting wrath serves as a healthy deterrent that motivates people toward repentance, much like a doctor's frightening diagnosis is meant to spur a patient toward better choices rather than simply to scare them. Turning to Revelation chapter 6, verse 1, Kinley identifies the Lamb, Jesus Christ, as the one who breaks the first of seven seals in response to a living creature's command to come, establishing that the coming judgments originate from God himself even though nations and human evil become his instruments. This sets the stage for the specific judgments Kinley walks through next.

Seal, Trumpet, and Bowl Judgments

Kinley moves rapidly through the tribulation's judgments. The seal judgments open with a white horse rider he identifies as the Antichrist, conquering peacefully by treaty, followed by a red horse that removes peace and brings roughly eight hundred percent inflation, a black horse bringing famine, and a pale horse bringing death that Kinley says will claim a fourth of the earth's population, roughly two billion people today. A fifth seal reveals martyred believers later described in chapter 20 as beheaded for their faith, and a sixth seal brings earthquakes and cosmic disturbances that send the world's powerful into hiding. The trumpet judgments that follow destroy a third of vegetation, sea life, and fresh water, darken a third of the sun, moon, and stars, and unleash tormenting locusts and two hundred million demonic horsemen. Finally, Kinley says the bowl judgments arrive in the tribulation's second half, bringing sores, blood-red seas, scorching heat, darkness, and a drying Euphrates River.

Humanity's Rebellion and the Believer's Response

Kinley describes how humanity reacts as the judgments intensify, moving from fear and hiding in caves to continued blasphemy and, eventually, gathering at Armageddon in open rebellion against God, a trajectory he says Jesus himself warns about in Luke chapter 21, where fear causes people's hearts to fail. He contrasts this with how believers should respond to hearing about coming wrath, offering three responses: gratitude that Romans 8:1 means no condemnation awaits those in Christ, a renewed urgency to warn others before what he calls the bridge going out beneath them, and worship, since Revelation chapter 11 shows heaven's saints and angels rejoicing when God's judgments finally set the world right. Kinley closes by promising further attributes of God in the next episode of the series, and the broadcast ends with the announcer promoting a donation offer tied to Kinley's book Aftershocks and Kinley's appeal for ongoing financial support of World Prophetic Ministries.

LaGrave Live

The Book of Romans | 8:40 am (EDT) 9-20-26

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Good Judgment: Paul Turns the Tables in the Book of Romans

At LaGrave Avenue Christian Reformed Church, Reverend Peter Jonker continues his fall sermon series on Romans, preaching on chapters 1 and 2 to show how Paul turns a divided church's finger-pointing back on itself and calls every faction to kneel together in need of grace.

Opening Worship And Seminary Interns

The service opens with the congregation singing an opening hymn declaring that "all you to whom his blessings come, allow your voices all be one," followed by the Lord's greeting of grace, mercy and peace. An unidentified liturgist welcomes worshippers in person and online to LaGrave Avenue Christian Reformed Church, marking the start of the fall "10:00 hour" of adult and youth programming and inviting first-time visitors to the welcome desk. She introduces three Calvin Theological Seminary interns who will serve the congregation for two years: Natalie Kraft of Paw Paw, Michigan, a Western Michigan University history graduate drawn to youth ministry and pastoral care; Jonathan Curlee of Dallas, a Calvin University religion and philosophy graduate; and Chad Scholten of Grand Rapids, a Calvin philosophy and music graduate. She then previews the morning's sermon, titled "Good Judgment," noting that good judgment starts with looking honestly in the mirror rather than at a neighbor's faults.

Confession, Scripture, And Assurance Of Pardon

The liturgist reads from Matthew 7, Jesus's warning against judging others while ignoring "the plank" in one's own eye, and leads the congregation into a responsive prayer of confession. Line by line she names how God showed humility, forgiveness, holiness and a longing for unity, while the congregation answers that it too often practices pride, holds grudges, criticizes neighbors instead of examining itself, and focuses on the differences that divide the church. She closes by asking God's mercy for "the things we have done and left undone." Turning to assurance, she reads from Romans 8, asking who can separate believers from the love of Christ through trouble, hardship, persecution, famine or sword, and the congregation answers that in all these things "we are more than conquerors" and that nothing in all creation can separate them from God's love in Christ Jesus. The congregation then rises to sing the hymn Children of the Heavenly Father.

Third Graders Receive Their Bibles

Reverend Peter Jonker calls the children forward for the children's message, along with the congregation's third graders, who have graduated from children's worship. Holding up a Bible, he tells the kids he is about to give them three things at once: words, bread and light. It is words because through it God speaks and tells people who he is and that he loves them. It is bread because, like Psalm 23's promise of comfort in the darkest valley, it feeds and strengthens the soul. And it is light because, as the children grow and face decisions about marriage, work and calling, it serves as "a lamp for our feet and a light for our path." He then invites Miss Rachel forward, who calls up Grant Schimmel, James Duitema, Charlotte DeBoer and Janice Kim to receive their own Bibles, and Jonker urges them not to leave the books on a shelf. The congregation prays "the Lord be with you" over them before Jonker sends them off with "go in peace."

Pastoral Prayer For A Hurting Congregation

Before the pastoral prayer, the liturgist shares two announcements: Ron Shoemaker is hospitalized with high sodium levels, and Cindy Norman is hospitalized at Butterworth being treated for an infection. Praying through language from the Psalms about entering God's gates with thanksgiving, she gives thanks for retiring pastoral care assistants and for those newly called to serve, naming Jane, Joyce, Mary, Dick, Judy, Jim and Cheryl. She thanks God for the third graders who received Bibles that morning and for youth ministries including church school, Gems, Youth Outdoors, Middle School Youth Group and Crew, and for the church's partnership with Calvin nursing students, recalling a recent spa day serving neighbors. She prays by name for Ron Shoemaker, Dan Beimers, Kelsey Canton, Cindy Norman and Elaine Smith, for the Kooistras as they grieve the death of Susan's brother Mike, and for church members serving in the military, Blake and Tim, along with world leaders seeking peace.

Reading Romans And The Divided Roman Church

Jonker reads Romans 1:18 through the end of the chapter, Paul's stark description of humanity suppressing the truth about God, exchanging his glory for idols, and being "given over" to shameful lusts, envy, murder, deceit and every kind of wickedness. He then steps back to ask why Paul, who had never visited Rome, poured such effort into this letter. Scholars believe Paul was wrestling with a deep, existential conflict between Jewish and Gentile Christians in the Roman house churches, a conflict sharpened by history: in 49 AD Emperor Claudius expelled all Jews from Rome, leaving the churches entirely Gentile for five years until his death in 54 AD, after which returning Jewish believers found their old festivals and observances abandoned. Jewish Christians came to see Gentile believers as morally unserious "slackers," while Gentile believers, citing their own scriptural language, dismissed Jewish Christians as legalists with a "weak faith." For Paul, headed toward a suspicious Jerusalem, the stakes of this division were not abstract but literally life and death.

Paul Turns The Tables On Everyone

Paul opens with a blistering diatribe against pagan sinfulness that would have delighted Jewish Christians, echoing Jewish attacks on Gentile idolatry found in texts like the Wisdom of Solomon. In chapter 2, Jonker reads, Paul flips the argument: "you who judge another are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things." Jonker compares the move to the prophet Nathan's parable confronting King David after his sin against Bathsheba and Uriah, when David condemns the story's villain only to hear Nathan say, "you are that man." Paul, Jonker argues, is doing the same to both factions in Rome, and to the modern church, which he says loves condemning sins it is least prone to committing, whether from progressive or conservative pulpits. He illustrates unity through brokenness with an imagined Michigan town torn by school-board fights until a tornado levels it and neighbors embrace, and with David Brooks's account of a Yale seminar drawn closer after he confessed his own struggles. Jonker closes in prayer, asking the Spirit to root that grace deeply as the series continues.

Tony Alamo

Program 766B: Revelation's Seventh Trumpet, the Woman Clothed in the Sun, and the Beast From the Sea

Tony Alamo continues his verse-by-verse walk through the Book of Revelation on program 766, preaching chapters eleven through thirteen on the seventh trumpet, the woman clothed with the sun, and the beast from the sea, before closing with listener letters from Uganda and Nigeria and a spoken prayer of salvation.

Opening Prayer and Program Introduction

Tony Alamo opens the broadcast identifying himself as world pastor, giving the program number, 766, and reminding listeners that a free CD or audio tape of the show is available for the asking, postage included. He says the broadcast continues straight through the Book of Revelation, with music and listener letters still to come later in the hour, then leads an opening prayer asking the Lord for a bigger anointing so the Scripture's metaphors, which he insists are also literal reality, can sink into listeners' hearts, souls and minds the way a small child simply trusts a parent. He asks the Lord to rebuke every demonic spirit fighting people's spirits, to destroy the works of Satan in everyone, and to open a clear channel so believers can hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches. He closes praying that souls in the world be saved and the church strengthened, and a congregation member answers with an audible amen before he turns to Scripture.

Revelation 11's Seventh Trumpet and the Ark

Alamo turns to the eleventh chapter of Revelation, reading from verse fourteen through nineteen, where the second woe passes, the seventh angel sounds, and voices in heaven declare that the kingdoms of the world have become the kingdom of the Lord and his Christ forever. He describes the twenty-four elders falling on their faces to give thanks that God has taken his great power and reigned, explaining that the years earthly rulers held sway were permitted only because people would not listen to God, and that a humbled remnant is now returning to him. He reads on through the nations' wrath, the judgment of the dead, and the reward due the prophets and saints, then reaches the vision of God's temple opened in heaven with the ark of his testament inside it, which he identifies as the word of God, Jesus himself, dwelling within believers amid lightning, thunder, and a great hailstorm.

The Woman Clothed With the Sun and the Dragon's War

Moving into chapter twelve, Alamo describes the wonder of a woman clothed with the sun, the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars, crying out in the pains of childbirth, which he says pictures the spiritual travail that accompanies every soul won for Christ. He reads of the great red dragon with seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns, whose tail sweeps a third of heaven's stars to earth, comparing the dragon's hunger to rule to a one-world government he calls hypocrisy disguised as democracy. He recalls that when he was first saved, people close to him urged him to abandon his career and accused him of losing his mind, which he says was Satan speaking through their mouths. The woman's male child, caught up to God's throne, is Christ and also his body, the church, which Alamo tells the congregation is seated with him in heavenly places even while still on earth.

Wilderness Refuge and the Flood of False Doctrine

Alamo reads how the woman flees into a wilderness place prepared by God, where she is nourished for what he reads as twelve hundred and sixty days, declining to say where that refuge is because he says even he does not yet know until the Lord tells him. He recounts the war in heaven, Michael and his angels defeating the dragon and casting him down to earth, and a loud voice proclaiming that salvation has come because the accuser of the brethren is thrown down. Believers overcome him, he says, by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their own testimony, and he shares his testimony of Jesus speaking to him from heaven and pulling breath through his body like a yo-yo. He describes the woman given eagle's wings to escape the serpent's flood of false doctrine, including claims that Christ's bones were found in a cave, which he rejects by pointing to the more than five hundred witnesses of the resurrection.

The Beast From the Sea and the Vatican

Turning into chapter thirteen, Alamo describes standing on the sand of the sea and seeing a beast rise up with seven heads, ten horns, ten crowns, and names of blasphemy written on its heads, which he reads as pride, the devil declaring himself greater than God. He describes the beast as part leopard, part bear, and part lion, empowered and seated by the great red dragon, and identifies that seat as the city of seven hills, Rome, and its occupant as the Vatican and the Pope, whom he calls the devil incarnate wielding political and human force against anyone who will not obey. He tells listeners the Vatican was behind the killing of President Kennedy because Kennedy would not honor its authority, a claim the transcript records without elaboration, and promises to continue the teaching the next day before turning to letters that have arrived from overseas listeners of the ministry's broadcasts.

Listener Letters and a Closing Altar Call

Co-host Sharon reads two letters, the first from a woman named Felicia in Gweri, Uganda, thanking the ministry for radio teaching that helped her leave old traditions and customs, and the second from a listener named Ilori in Ondo State, Nigeria, who says he converted after hearing the broadcast on Radio Africa and asks for a Bible, CDs, and literature to distribute. Alamo responds by telling listeners not to let pride keep them from salvation, insisting they must be born again, and leads a spoken sinner's prayer asking for mercy, confessing belief that Jesus is the Son of God who died, rose, and forgives sin, and inviting listeners to raise their hands in praise once they believe they are saved. Sharon then gives the ways to request program 766, the ministry's website, email, mailing address in Hollywood, California, and phone number. Alamo signs off promising more from Revelation the next day and closes the hour singing his own composition, Before I Met Jesus.

As You Wish Talk Radio with James Gilliland

Sumerian Prophecy, a Viral 'Great Awakening' Video, and Warnings About a Corrupted UFO Community

Broadcasting solo from ECETI, James Gilliland reads ancient Sumerian extinction cycles, plays a viral video predicting a worldwide financial and political "Great Awakening," and warns that greed and ego inside the spiritual and UFO communities are what keep humanity from real contact with benevolent visitors.

Inner Guidance Over Outer Timelines

James Gilliland opens the broadcast answering a question he says he hears constantly: when will the great changes finally arrive. He tells listeners there is no fixed clock, only an event clock, where one shift triggers the next at whatever pace unfolds, and that the real timepiece is each person's own inner guidance rather than mainstream or alternative media. He warns that every channeled message carries only a percentage of accuracy, noting that even some of the best channels associated with the Tibetan Foundation land around seventy percent, so untrained sources fare far worse. He then reads a widely circulated astrological message describing a coming karmic reset tied to Chiron completing an eight-year cycle of identity healing, an Aries full moon, and Venus retrograde in Scorpio, which he says rings true for what humanity is moving through before anything from before October thirty-first carries into 2027.

Sumerian Tablets and Cycles of Collapse

Gilliland moves into what he calls his recent deep dive into ancient Sumerian tablets, describing an antediluvian king list stretching back forty-two thousand years and five extinction-level cycles that predate the Anunnaki: a great flood that raised sea levels four hundred feet and buried cities thousands of feet underwater, fire from the sky tied to meteor cycles, earthquakes that reshaped rivers and mountains, a darkness linked to a celestial event, and a drought he says humanity is living through right now. He connects a sixth cycle of plagues targeting reproduction to Enlil's ancient effort to thin humanity's numbers, drawing a direct line to modern gender-bender chemicals he believes are dismantling the family unit today. He describes more than forty-seven civilizations the Anunnaki encountered, some benevolent and ascended, others still trapped in lower dimensions, and recounts how Atlantis's misuse of technology and its beam-ship attack on Lemuria left glass sheets beneath the Gobi Desert, a pattern he says civilization keeps repeating.

A Viral Video Promises Global Liberation

Gilliland introduces a roughly four-minute video he says came from 'the Q boys,' describing a coordinated one-hundred-nation operation involving Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and the British SAS acting under a multinational alliance. The narrator claims an Emergency Broadcast System blackout is coming, one meant to silence a global 'cabal' rather than the public, during which unreleased documentary footage of ritual abuse, child trafficking, and financial crimes will air worldwide as a final wake-up call. It describes seized satellites, a new Starlink-powered quantum internet, and a Quantum Financial System already active behind the scenes, dismantling the IRS and Federal Reserve, freezing offshore accounts, and zeroing mortgages and student loans through an asset-backed system outside SWIFT and Rothschild banking channels. It also claims redemption centers tied to Reno, Nevada are already processing payments, and that a Fourth of July announcement was expected to restore the original American Republic. Gilliland tells listeners timing remains fluid but guesses the EBS could arrive within three to four weeks.

Edgar Cayce's Golden Age and Failed Tribalism

Turning to Edgar Cayce, Gilliland says the psychic specifically named 2026 as the year chaos gives way to a golden age, provided humanity makes the right choices, merging technology with spirituality into free energy, medical beds, and a society where disease becomes rare because consciousness heals the body. He credits Cayce with predicting both World Wars but notes his forecast of California sliding into the ocean was delayed, he believes, by prayer, though he still urges listeners to leave California, New York, and San Francisco, calling their decline a natural consequence of falling consciousness rather than divine punishment. He then criticizes tribalism across religions, arguing every war traces back to leaders wanting what others had rather than any holy cause, and singles out strands of Zionism and radical Islam for teaching that outsiders can be lied to, robbed, or killed. He frames all such division as antichrist consciousness, the opposite of the unity and God-spark awareness he says defines true Christ consciousness.

The Rockefeller Initiative and a Corrupted UFO Community

Gilliland alleges that Rockefeller money, funneled through what he calls the Rockefeller Initiative, took over UFO research decades ago, buying influence over major documentaries and conferences to sideline anyone discussing benevolent, spiritually advanced contact in favor of a strictly 'nuts and bolts' narrative. He claims benevolent extraterrestrials once offered world leaders free energy, anti-gravity technology, and planetary healing in exchange for abandoning nuclear weapons, while negative extraterrestrials instead offered technology in return for permission to experiment on humans, seeking what he calls the divine genome left in humanity by the god Enki over the objections of Enlil. He ties this ancient rivalry directly to today's chemtrails, vaccines he calls bioweapons loaded with nanoparticles, and a processed food supply he says is engineered with the same gender-bender materials, all aimed, he argues, at suppressing the 'divine masculine' and reducing global population. He urges listeners to grow food, source meat locally, and test their own water.

Mount Adams Ships and a Call to Get Honest

Closing the hour, Gilliland describes a cave high on Mount Adams where he says ships regularly emerge through what witnesses call a door opening in the mountainside, footage he says is archived on the ECETI website. He recounts a story of an unnamed colonel whose team attempted a forced landing near the site with helicopters, snowmobiles, and weapons, only to find nothing worked once they arrived, a failure he compares to the Assyrian army's overnight loss of one hundred eighty thousand soldiers in ancient scripture. He closes with a warning that ill-gotten gain will always be lost, urging listeners toward brutal self-honesty about their own motives, and acknowledges his own frustration with rumors circulating about him even as he clears earthquake and hurricane debris on his Hawaii property. He previews upcoming guests, including a Bigfoot researcher from Canada, David Clements, and Natalie Namaste, before signing off with a reminder to keep an open mind, a loving heart, and pure intent.

Popp Talk with Mary Jane Popp

Dr. Neal Barnard and Catherine Lanigan, The Power Foods Diet and a Lifetime of Angel Encounters

Mary Jane Popp spends the hour on two very different searches for a better life: weight-loss science with Dr. Neal Barnard, author of The Power Foods Diet, and a lifelong string of angelic encounters recounted by author Catherine Lanigan.

Setting Up The Hour

An announcer opens the broadcast with Popp Talk's usual promise of new dimensions and possibilities before handing things to host Mary Jane Popp. Popp welcomes listeners back and asks how many of them have ever been on a diet, joking that anyone who says never is telling a fib. She frames the segment around what she calls an obese society and promises a solution from one of the most renowned doctors in nutrition and health. She also teases the back half of the show, telling listeners a guest who has experienced angels throughout her life will explain whether angels were once human or are an entirely different kind of being. After a music break featuring The Hues Corporation's Rock the Boat, Popp introduces Dr. Neal Barnard, calling him a leader in evidence-based nutrition science whose team studies which foods are both healthy and good tasting.

Rethinking Diets With Power Foods

Barnard tells Popp that most diets fail because they rely on deprivation, cutting calories or banning entire food groups until people give up and lose confidence. He credits Harvard researchers who followed more than 100,000 people and found, in a report published in 2015, that certain foods actually cause weight loss the more a person eats them, because they curb appetite, block calorie absorption, or speed metabolism back toward youthful levels. His first example is berries: blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, and blackberries contain anthocyanins, the pigment that colors them, which appears to boost metabolism. He cites a British study of nearly three thousand identical twins scanned for body fat, in which the twin who ate more anthocyanins consistently carried less abdominal and total fat than her genetically identical sister. Barnard also praises cinnamon, ginger, and hot peppers for their metabolic effects, describing a cinnamon-blueberry syrup he pours over French toast as an example of turning an ordinary breakfast into what he calls a power food.

Fast Food, Fiber, And Metabolism

The conversation turns to real-world eating: Barnard says a fast-food meal can still be a good choice if a customer picks a bean burrito over a cheese-topped beef taco, since beans supply fiber that naturally triggers the appetite-suppressing hormone GLP-1, the same hormone mimicked by drugs like Ozempic and Wegovy. He singles out cheese, at roughly seventy percent fat with no fiber, as a bigger culprit than carbohydrate, and calls foods like chicken among the most heavily processed of all once factory farming is considered. Citing a Tufts University study, he explains that fiber in whole-grain bread acts like tiny sponges that carry unabsorbed calories out of the body. Barnard says his research studies hold exercise constant so results reflect diet alone, meaning even people who cannot exercise can lose weight through food choices. He shares recipes from The Power Foods Diet, including a triple-berry sorbet and fruit popsicles, and explains that aging slows metabolism mainly because dietary fat impairs mitochondria, a process his approach can reverse, before directing listeners to pcrm.org.

Catherine Lanigan And The Vanishing Stranger

After a music break featuring Bill Withers' Lean on Me, Popp introduces author Catherine Lanigan, who says she saw her first angel at age three and has since written forty-five books, including Angel Talks, Angel Timelines, and Angel Watch. Lanigan tells the story of a blizzard in La Porte, Indiana, when she was three years old and her pregnant mother, injured after a fall down the stairs, sent her out alone through a whiteout to reach a grocery store nearly a mile away. A man in an old car stopped, gently persuaded the frightened toddler to let him drive her the rest of the way, delivered her safely, and then vanished; the grocer and his staff said they had never seen him before and never saw him again. Lanigan says her mother always insisted the driver was an angel. Soon after, in the family's new house, young Catherine says a winged, glowing figure began visiting her bedroom regularly to keep her company.

Guardian Angels, Good And Bad

Lanigan explains that everyone is born with at least two guardian angels, and that more can arrive in times of need, describing angels she calls her own medical team who help friends facing illness. She says angels are a distinct species with different ranks, citing her father's twenty-two-minute near-death experience and biblical references to legions of battle-ready angels, and notes that seraphim and cherubim are said to have six wings. Some angels take human form temporarily, she says, often to protect people, especially women, from danger such as human trafficking, then vanish once the danger passes; she calls these vanishing angels. Asked how to tell a good angel from a bad one, Lanigan says a person can simply ask whether the being comes from the light, insisting a universal law compels a truthful answer, while dark or trickster spirits either cannot fake real light or lack the creativity to sustain the lie. She ties low vibration to fear and high vibration to acts of everyday kindness.

A New Earth And Closing Thoughts

The conversation turns to what Lanigan calls the New Earth, a shift she links to increasing solar flares that she says are raising the vibration of the planet's DNA and pushing humanity through an ascension. She describes a visitation from ten thousand angels before the pandemic who told her they were fighting a spiritual battle for possession of Earth, insisting the light has already won even as darkness makes a last grasp through fear and corruption. Lanigan says listeners can strengthen the shift through prayer, visualizing light spreading everywhere, and small kindnesses like a smile to a stranger, referencing research inspired by the film Pay It Forward that found smiling raises both parties' energy. She tells Popp that talking to angels works even without obvious answers, since angels reply through opportunities and paths already opening, including Popp's own radio show. Lanigan directs listeners to catherinelanigan.com and her book Angel Timelines before Popp closes the show promising to have her back and signing off with her usual reminder to laugh often and love deeply.

Beverage Chronicles

Craft Beer's Loyalty Gap, Wine Value Myths, Brand Consistency, and NFL Beer Price Shock

Gary Monterosso reviews new survey data on craft beer loyalty, wine expert John Mahoney answers listener questions on pricey bottles and summer whites, branding contributor Leslie Jespersen makes the case for consistency over novelty, and Monterosso closes with a look at soaring beer prices at NFL stadiums.

Craft Beer's Loyal Fans Versus A Shrinking Audience

Gary Monterosso opens the show with new numbers from the Brewers Association's Harris Poll consumer survey, which paints a mixed picture for craft beer. He reports that eighty five percent of people who already call themselves craft drinkers now say they drink craft beer at least monthly, up ten points from last year and the strongest showing since 2019 or 2020. Brewery visits are up too, averaging five and a half trips a year, and more of those visitors are buying extra product in the taproom and trying multiple brands each month. But Monterosso notes the trouble sits outside that loyal circle: monthly craft consumption among the general population actually fell, and nearly half of drinkers say they never touch craft beer at all. He points to survey data showing many non-drinkers dislike the flavor, or admit they are not even sure what craft beer is supposed to taste like, suggesting an image problem as much as a taste one.

John Mahoney Weighs In On Pricey Bottles

Gary Monterosso hands the show over to John Mahoney, who hosts New Jersey Wine Radio and returns to Beverage Chronicles to answer listener wine questions. A caller asks whether a hundred dollar Cabernet or Merlot is really five times better than a twenty dollar bottle, and Mahoney says absolutely not. He suggests a simple test: gather friends, buy one bottle at each price point, cover them in brown paper bags so nobody knows which is which, then compare notes. Mahoney says the pricier bottle might show a touch more color or fragrance, but it will not taste three or five times richer or more complex than its cheaper counterpart. The exchange sets a practical, no-nonsense tone for his segment, aimed at helping everyday wine drinkers spend with more confidence and less assumption that price alone signals quality, a message Mahoney delivers with his usual plainspoken enthusiasm for the subject.

A Tour Of Summer White Wines

A second question sends John Mahoney into a long list of white wine recommendations for a listener who already enjoys Pinot Grigio and Chardonnay. He suggests branching out into Albariño, Chenin Blanc, and the spicy Gewürztraminer, along with Riesling, Sémillon, and Viognier. For lighter summer sipping he mentions Aligoté, Greek Assyrtiko, and Italian Fiano, and as the weather heats up he says he personally reaches for Austrian Grüner Veltliner, Marsanne from southern France, Muscadet, Palomino, Pinot Blanc, and Roussanne. Mahoney rounds out the tour with Torrontés, Verdejo, Italian Vermentino, and a Spanish white he drinks often, Viura. He frames the whole list as an invitation to experiment beyond familiar bottles and expand a wine drinker's palate through the warmer months. Mahoney closes his segment with his signature sign-off, telling listeners in vino veritas and to drink well for the rest of the summer.

Leslie Jespersen Makes The Case For Consistency

Marketing and branding contributor Leslie Jespersen takes over the show to argue that consistency, not novelty, is what actually keeps consumers loyal to a beverage brand. She calls consistency the most boring strategy in marketing, saying nobody gets excited about a favorite brand staying exactly the same, yet it is one of the biggest reasons people keep buying it. Jespersen asks listeners to imagine their favorite coffee, beer, or dinner-party wine suddenly tasting different, changing its can design, or rebranding to a new audience, and how quickly that would create doubt about whether it is even the same product. She says consumers claim to love surprises but really crave reliability, and that the phrase my usual is one of the highest compliments a brand can earn because it means the brand has become a trusted, permanent part of someone's routine. Jespersen closes by pointing listeners to her own website for more branding commentary.

NFL Game Day Costs Keep Climbing

Gary Monterosso returns with research from FinanceBuzz on the rising cost of attending an NFL game, timed to a new season that opened with a Super Bowl rematch between the New England Patriots and Seattle Seahawks. He reports that league-wide game day costs, covering tickets, parking, beer, and hot dogs, have climbed seventy two percent over the past decade to an average of one hundred ninety six dollars per person, though costs actually dropped slightly in New Orleans and Indianapolis. Monterosso singles out the Detroit Lions, where the total price of attending a game rose from about ninety eight dollars in 2015 to four hundred twenty nine dollars last year, a three hundred thirty six percent jump. Beer prices draw special attention: a sixteen ounce beer that cost five dollars a decade ago now runs about twelve dollars at MetLife Stadium and twelve thirty five for Cleveland Browns fans, with Cincinnati Bengals fans paying roughly eleven forty nine.

Closing Out The Show

To close the episode, Gary Monterosso thanks both contributors, telling listeners it is always a special treat to welcome John Mahoney and Leslie Jespersen to the show. He points listeners toward Mahoney's personal site, johnjmahoney.com, for more wine reviews, and to Jespersen's site, lesliejespersen.com, for more of her branding and consumer behavior commentary. Monterosso wraps up by describing Beverage Chronicles as a source for the people, places, ideas, and stories shaping the beverage world, promising continued coverage of industry news, trends, and the personalities behind them. He invites listeners who enjoyed the program to share it with a friend, follow the show on social media, and visit online for more interviews and behind-the-scenes content. Monterosso signs off with his usual send-off, encouraging the audience to stay curious, stay connected, and make time for the moments that bring people together, before the closing theme music plays out the episode.

The Church of the Souls Evolution with The Reverend Blake Rubie

The Tunnel of Light, God's Jail, and a Guided Tour of Heaven's Flowers and Animals

In a solo, thirty-minute broadcast, Reverend Blake Rubie walks listeners through the moment of death, the spirit's journey down the tunnel of light, hell as God's jail, and a vivid tour of heaven's colors, living flowers, and animals that no longer eat each other.

A Shorter Show and a New Book Reference

Reverend Blake Rubie opens The Church of the Soul's Evolution on Saturday, September 19th, thanking Doug at BBS Radio and TV for a new theme song, "Grey Brain, Golden Soul," a seven-minute piece from which listeners hear only a clip. He tells the audience today's topic is heaven and what to expect there, drawing on his own book, The Grey Brain and the Golden Soul, an eighty-page Kindle title with thirty chapters of spirituality and evolution material. Rubie explains he has trimmed his program from fifty-five minutes down to thirty, saying at seventy-two he wants to conserve his energy for a busy retirement that already includes membership in four Toastmasters clubs and a Toastmasters meeting earlier that morning, plus exercise planned for right after the show. He apologizes to longtime listeners who may miss the longer format before turning to his main subject: what actually happens to a person at the moment of death.

The Spirit Leaves the Body

Rubie explains that every person carries a spirit made of light, translucent and shot through with billions of electrons, comparable, he says, to the glowing figure Patrick Swayze becomes at the end of the movie Ghost. At the body's expiration date, whether from accident, illness, or old age, the spirit pops free and can move by thought or fly. He teaches that souls are born on suns rather than planets, since the sun is the true source of light and the seat of the spirit world, and that other species across the universe are born on their own suns in the same way. Older souls, he suggests, may have lived many lives already, evolving through reincarnation across a universe divided into nine categories of planets from lowest to highest, with Earth ranked as a category one world still struggling near the bottom of that spiritual scale.

Mother and Father God and the Birth of New Spirits

Rubie describes the mother and father God as spirit parents living ninety-three million miles away on the sun, soulmates who evolved through countless lifetimes on other planets before reaching the highest category of existence. He says new spirits are created when the two merge, their united thoughts and spoken words giving birth to a baby spirit that eventually grows old enough to be born onto a planet, sometimes Earth. He compares this spiritual merging loosely to human reproduction while stressing it works differently, guided purely by shared intent rather than physical union. Rubie adds that the spirit shares the physical body's features and even its organs, arranged in something like a mirror image, and that spirits can eat, drink, and feel pain much as people do. He also describes the spirit's nightly excursions during sleep, when it leaves the body to work through daytime worries and returns before waking, provided a person gets seven or eight hours of rest.

God's Jail and the Logic of Forgiveness

Rubie turns to what he calls the other direction some spirits travel: down into the Earth's core, a realm of lava beds and dark caverns he identifies as hell, or God's jail, overseen by Archangel Lucifer. Souls who committed serious sins, he says, do their time there and rehabilitate rather than suffer eternal damnation, using Hitler as his example of someone who might have been shaped by childhood abuse or by a role the mother and father God intended so humanity could eventually learn to move beyond its warring ways. Rubie argues that if earthly mothers and fathers would not condemn a child to endless suffering over a mistake, heavenly parents, being still more loving, surely would not either, calling this reasoning irrefutable. He then describes the freed spirit itself as the real, pure self, lighter and more mobile than the body, with vision spanning three hundred sixty degrees and senses sharper than anything experienced while alive on Earth.

Down the Tunnel Toward the Light

Rubie describes the more common journey after death, down a circular, light-blue tunnel toward a distant pinprick of light, ninety-three million miles away on the sun, an image he ties to the book and film 90 Minutes in Heaven, in which a man struck by a semi truck arrives at the Pearly Gates and is met by deceased relatives. He explains that travelers can likewise be greeted by angels or by loved ones going back generations, and that not everyone completes the trip: some become ghosts still wandering Earth's surface, unaware they have died, especially those killed suddenly and violently. Rubie also revisits the pre-existence, the state before birth, describing how a warrior angel escorts every unborn spirit from the sun down through the atmosphere and into the mother's womb, and suggesting that babies may retain a dim memory of looking out through their mother's eyes during that nine-month, submerged existence before entering the world.

A Guided Tour of Heaven's Light and Living Flowers

Arriving at last in that world of light, Rubie says, spirits behold colors more vivid than any on Earth, some found nowhere else, and living flowers, including roses whose intricate inner parts turn to watch onlookers pass. Advanced souls may arrive by a more direct route, a chariot sent by Archangel Gabriel, and everyone is eventually reunited with deceased relatives, pets, and old friends from other lifetimes on other planets, since he considers all souls one large, interrelated family. He describes fields of green grass walked barefoot, robes of white shining according to one's spiritual development, and trees of the Tree of Life bearing edible fruit. Notably, he says, lions, tigers, and lambs there no longer eat one another, unlike on violent Earth, which he blames in part for humanity's wars. Running short on his newly shortened thirty minutes, Rubie promises to continue next week, offering a closing blessing and love to his listeners before signing off.