Be a Happier Parent

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  • Ep 38: Parents with ADHD with Erica Djossa

    Check out Erica's work at https://www.ericadjossa.com/

    You can find my online coaching community at https://www.skool.com/be-a-happier-parent/about

    If you're interested in 1:1 couples coaching, email me at [email protected]

     content  type

    Interview


     primary  goal

    Educational


     summary

    In this episode, we explore the impact of ADHD on parenting and relationships, focusing on how neurodivergence influences the mental load, responsibility, and communication between partners. Erica Josso shares insights from her work and books, offering practical advice for couples navigating these challenges.


     keywords

    ADHD, parenting, mental load, relationships, neurodivergence, gender roles, communication, mental health, family dynamics, ADHD in adults


     key  topics

    ADHD as a brain function difference in dopamine regulation

    Gender differences in ADHD presentation and diagnosis
    The impact of ADHD on mental load and household management
    Communication strategies for couples dealing with ADHD
    Challenging societal expectations and gender norms in parenting
    The importance of defining shared standards and expectations
    The role of compassion versus enabling in ADHD relationships
    Strategies for managing capacity and avoiding burnout
    The social conditioning of priorities and responsibilities
    Tools and resources for supporting neurodivergent parents


     

     

    57 min
  • Ep 37: Demand More with Laura Danger

    Laura Danger is @darnchat on social media.

    Her book is No More Mediocre: A Call to Reimagine Our Relationships and Demand More.

    If you would like to find out more about one-to-one coaching, email me at [email protected].

    My Be a Happier Parent Skool community is currently available on a free seven-day trial. I distil my coaching down into easy-to-follow videos, and I’m on there every day chatting to people and answering questions.

    Come and check it out:

    https://www.skool.com/be-a-happier-parent/about

    You can also follow me on Instagram and TikTok @BeAHappyParent and on YouTube @alexindadland.

    content  type

    Interview


     primary  goal

    Educational


     summary

    In this episode, Alex Trippier talks with Laura Danger about the realities of relationships after having children, gender roles, emotional labor, and how societal systems influence family dynamics. They explore how anger, community, and systemic change can lead to healthier, more equitable relationships.


     keywords

    relationships, parenting, gender roles, emotional labor, systemic change, anger, community, family dynamics, gender equality, mental health


     key  topics

    Impact of having children on relationship satisfaction

    Gender roles and societal expectations for moms and dads
    Emotional labor and mental load in households
    The role of anger in driving change
    Community and systemic change for better family life
    The influence of societal systems on family dynamics
    The concept of living in community and shared responsibility
    The importance of valuing care work and emotional labor
    The impact of societal hierarchy and capitalism on family roles
    Strategies for having difficult conversations about division of labor


     guest  name

    Laura Danger


     sound bites

    "There's a lot of inequity and sacrifice in households."

    "It's okay to feel angry and face discomfort."
    "Sitting with discomfort is work every day."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction: Why relationships change after children

    02:00 The inequity of emotional labor in households
    05:13 Laura Danger's story of her birthday and realization
    07:57 The systemic roots of family struggles
    12:01 The importance of community and shared responsibility
    15:53 The influence of societal expectations on masculinity
    19:56 The role of anger in creating change
    25:03 The impact of societal hierarchy and capitalism
    30:11 Valuing care over struggle and wealth
    35:04 Living in community and local activism
    39:56 The importance of valuing emotional labor and care work
    45:05 The internalized expectations of masculinity
    50:00 How systemic change can improve family life
    55:08 Practical advice for having difficult conversations
    01:00:00 The importance of sitting with discomfort
    01:05:01 Changing societal narratives around gender and work

    1 hr 9 min
  • Ep 36: What are Human Fathers for? with Dr Anna Machin

    Check out my members community: https://www.skool.com/be-a-happier-parent/about

    Anna's book is "The Life of Dad" and you can find more about her work here: https://annamachin.com/

     

     content  type

    Interview


     primary  goal

    Educational


     summary

    Anna Machin explores the evolution of fatherhood, its biological and social foundations, and how modern environments influence paternal roles. Discover how our ancestors' adaptations shape today's diverse fathering practices and the importance of nurturing, challenge, and co-parenting.


     keywords

    fatherhood, evolution, parenting, biology, social roles, attachment, hormones, brain plasticity, cultural differences, co-parenting


     key  topics

    The biological origins of fatherhood and its evolution over 500,000 years

    The hormonal and neurological changes in new fathers
    The diversity of fathering roles across cultures and environments
    The importance of co-parenting and relationship quality
    The impact of environment and circumstances on paternal behavior
    The role of teaching and challenge in building resilience
    Attachment theory and the unique role of fathers in emotional development


     guest  name

    Anna Machin


    Titles

    The Evolution of Fatherhood: From Survival to Nurturing

    How Biology and Culture Shape Modern Dads


     sound bites

    "We are the only ape with this peculiar thing in our line."

    "Fathers' primary role is to nurture."
    "The brain is very open to experience and plastic."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Evolutionary Roots of Fatherhood

    02:40 Early Human Ancestors and the Need for Investing Fathers
    05:07 Brain and Hormonal Changes in New Fathers
    08:16 The Versatility and Cultural Diversity of Fathering
    13:10 Neural Plasticity and the Brain of the Father
    19:34 Different Cultural Models of Fatherhood
    26:40 Attachment, Challenge, and Resilience in Fathers
    31:00 Fathers as Social Scaffolders and Developmental Guides
    38:31 Relationship Dynamics and the Impact on Fathers
    44:37 Parenting Styles, Self-Regulation, and Breaking Cycles
    49:10 The Unique Teaching Role of Fathers
    52:34 Hunting, Foraging, and the Evolution of Male Roles
    54:23 Supporting Fathers in High-Pressure Environments

     resources

    Anna Machin - The Life of Dad - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Anna+Machin+The+Life+of+Dad

    Attachment Theory - John Bowlby - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=John+Bowlby+Attachment+Theory
    The Strange Situation - Mary Ainsworth - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Situation
    Deloitte Events - https://www2.deloitte.com
    The Good Mother Myth by Nancy Reddy - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Nancy+Reddy+The+Good+Mother+Myth


     

     

    1 hr
  • Ep 35: Understanding Maternal Rage with Dr Caroline Boyd

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    https://www.skool.com/be-a-happier-parent/about

    Here's Caroline's amazing course: The coupon for £100 discount is SUMMERSUPPORT 

    https://dr-caroline-boyd.mykajabi.com/mr-signup-autumn-2025

    You can find more about Caroline at https://drcarolineboyd.com/

     

    content  type

    Interview


     primary  goal

    Educational


     summary

    In this episode, Caroline Boyd and Alex explore the complex emotions of maternal rage, societal expectations, and how understanding these can lead to healthier parenting and relationships. They discuss the cultural myths of the supermum, the impact of patriarchy, and practical ways to navigate anger and self-regulation.


     keywords

    maternal rage, motherhood, anger, patriarchy, self-regulation, parenting, emotional health, gender roles, mental load, compassion-focused therapy


     key  topics

    The cultural myth of the supermum and its impact

    The specific context of maternal rage and societal expectations
    The three circles of emotion model from compassion-focused therapy
    The influence of patriarchy on motherhood and gender roles
    The importance of self-regulation and repair in parenting
    The impact of social media on maternal guilt and shame
    The connection between anger, grief, and anxiety
    Strategies for managing anger and setting boundaries in parenting


     guest  name

    Caroline Boyd


    Titles

    Unmasking Maternal Rage: Breaking the Supermum Myth

    The Hidden Power of Anger in Motherhood


     sound bites

    "I'm only ever interested in making you look wonderful and clever."

    "Anger is often protesting something or protecting vulnerability."
    "Repair teaches children that it's okay to mess up and make amends."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Maternal Rage

    02:03 Understanding Maternal Rage
    05:54 The Myth of the Supermum
    10:05 The Impact of Patriarchy on Motherhood
    13:58 Sources of Maternal Anger
    22:07 The Three Circles of Emotion
    28:05 Navigating Parenting Dynamics
    33:24 Understanding Maternal Anger and Its Roots
    36:04 The Complexity of Emotions in Motherhood
    38:58 The Interplay of Anger, Grief, and Anxiety
    41:50 Cultural Norms and Emotional Expression
    49:04 Navigating Conflict in Relationships
    52:51 Gentle Parenting: Balancing Emotions and Boundaries

    55 min
  • Ep 34: Finding a Role for Fathers with Darby Saxbe

    Please follow me on Instagram and TikTok @beahappierparent

    Full videos of episodes available on YouTube @alexindadland

    Couples coaching, contact me: [email protected]

    Darby Saxbe is on Instagram @darbysaxbephd


    summary

    This conversation explores the evolving roles of fathers and mothers, the impact of societal and cultural shifts on parenting, and how to foster healthier family dynamics. It highlights the importance of communication, understanding gender roles, and supporting men in caregiving.


     keywords

    fatherhood, gender roles, parenting, mental load, maternal gatekeeping, relationship dynamics, cultural shifts, caregiving, masculinity, family health


     key  topics

    Changing roles of fathers and mothers

    Impact of societal and cultural shifts on parenting
    Maternal gatekeeping and paternal involvement
    The emotional and physical transformation of new dads
    The importance of communication in parenting partnerships


     guest  name

    Darby Saxbe


    Titles

    The Future of Fatherhood: Embracing Care and Connection

    How Cultural Shifts Are Redefining Parenting Roles


     sound bites

    "Men are left out of the conversation."

    "Fatherhood is transformative for men."
    "We need to value care as a society."


    Chapters

    00:00 The Importance of Dads in Parenting Dynamics

    05:15 Transformative Experiences of Fatherhood
    07:54 Understanding the Impact of Birth on Fathers
    11:12 The Role of Meaning-Making in Parenting
    11:41 The Crisis of Transitioning to Parenthood
    13:59 Communication as a Key to Relationship Success
    17:04 The Unique Role of Fathers in Child Development
    19:50 The Evolution of Fatherhood Roles
    22:45 The Future of Parenting Dynamics
    26:58 The Role of Oxytocin in Parenting
    27:52 Cultural Influences on Parenting Styles
    30:30 Navigating Parental Expectations and Child Development
    31:56 Changing Representations of Fathers in Media
    35:52 Evolving Masculinity and Parenting Roles
    40:04 The Importance of Male Role Models in Caregiving
    43:31 Valuing Care in Society
    46:45 Understanding Modern Parenting Challenges

     resources

    Darby Saxbe's Book on Parenthood and Gender Roles - https://www.amazon.com/Parenthood-Gender-Roles-Darby-Saxbe/dp/XXXXXX

    Richard Reeves' Work on Fatherhood and Masculinity - https://www.thelondonreview.com/richard-reeves-fatherhood
    Star Wars and Cultural Depictions of Fathers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXXXXX
    The Mandalorian Series - https://www.disneyplus.com/series/the-mandalorian/XXXXXX
    Studies on Oxytocin and Parenting - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/XXXXXX


     

     

    47 min
  • Ep 33: Do Less to Be More with Leah Ruppanner

    Follow me on Instagram @beahappierparent 

    Full videos of Eps on YouTube @alexindadland 

    content  type

    Interview


     primary  goal

    Educational


     summary

    This conversation explores social norms, gender roles, mental load, and how they impact women and men in modern life. Leah and Alex discuss empirical research, societal expectations, and practical strategies for creating more balanced and fulfilling lives.


     keywords

    social norms, gender roles, mental load, household chores, parenting, work-life balance, social expectations, gender equality, emotional labor, societal change


     key  topics

    Empirical evidence on gender differences in perceiving mess

    Social penalties for women based on household standards
    The role of social norms in shaping behavior and expectations
    Strategies for reducing mental load and re-aligning with personal values
    The impact of societal expectations on parenting and career choices


     guest  name

    Leah


    Titles

    Revealing the Hidden Mental Load: How Norms Shape Our Lives

    The Messy Truth: Gender, Judgment, and Social Norms


     sound bites

    "You can't be everything to everyone."

    "Resting without guilt is critical for well-being."
    "A mother's love is not the only love that matters."


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Messy Room Study

    04:49 Understanding Gender Norms and Housework
    07:34 The Impact of Social Norms on Women
    10:42 Challenging Traditional Expectations
    13:36 The Burden of Mental Load
    16:32 Finding Value Beyond Social Norms
    19:27 The Role of Caregiving in Men's Lives
    22:17 Redefining Success and Self-Worth
    25:26 The Importance of Rest and Self-Care
    28:24 Navigating Personal Expectations and Social Pressures
    29:54 Understanding Magic Making and Mental Load
    32:37 The Emotional Weight of Mental Load
    34:15 Navigating Mental Load in Work and Family Life
    35:48 The Impact of Gender Norms on Parenting
    42:15 The Isolation of Motherhood and Societal Expectations
    47:03 Redefining Success in Parenting
    51:19 Understanding Mental Load and Its Impact
    54:02 Conducting a Mental Load Audit
    56:33 Aligning Mental Load with Personal Values
    01:00:28 The Spillover Effect of Mental Load
    01:05:20 Negotiating Mental Load in Relationships
    01:08:28 Overcoming Barriers to Self-Care

     resources

    Leah's Book: Drained - Reduce Your Mental Load to Do Less and Be More - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CGLV7X7V

    Better Life Lab - Articulating the Cost of Tasks - https://www.betterlifelab.org/
    Louis Theroux's Manosphere - Netflix Documentary - https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224

     

    1 hr 11 min
  • Ep 32: Emotional Masculinity with Matt Salis

    Find out more about Matt's work at https://un-toxicated.com/

    Please follow me on Instagram and TikTok @beahappierparent 

    Full videos of the show available on YouTube @alexindadland

     content  type

    Interview


     primary  goal

    Educational


     summary

    In this insightful interview, Matt Salis explores the evolving concept of emotional masculinity, emphasizing the importance of emotional safety, vulnerability, and resilience in modern relationships and parenting. Discover practical strategies for men to lead with emotional intimacy, create safe environments, and foster stronger family bonds.


     keywords

    emotional masculinity, emotional safety, vulnerability, parenting, relationships, resilience, emotional intimacy, modern masculinity, family dynamics, mental health


     key  topics

    Redefinition of masculinity in modern society

    The importance of emotional safety and vulnerability
    Strategies for men to lead with emotional intimacy
    Impact of social media and societal changes on family dynamics
    Practical steps for creating emotionally safe environments


     guest  name

    Matt Salis


    Titles

    The New Face of Masculinity: Lead, Provide, Protect with Emotional Safety

    How Emotional Safety Transforms Modern Relationships


     sound bites

    "Lead with emotional intimacy."

    "We need good men to make the world safe."
    "Women don’t need us for money anymore."


    Chapters

    00:00 Exploring Emotional Masculinity

    06:20 Creating Emotional Safety in Families
    10:37 The Impact of Emotional Temperature
    17:15 The Need for Emotional Connection
    24:04 Research Insights on Emotional Safety
    32:02 Evolution of Coaching and Parenting
    37:07 Navigating Emotional Masculinity
    42:19 The Importance of Vulnerability
    48:16 Creating Safe Spaces for Conversations
    54:41 Learning from Our Children

     resources

    Galloway's views on masculinity - https://example.com/galloway-masculinity

    Richard Reeves' work on masculinity and society - https://example.com/richard-reeves
    Laura McCown on addiction recovery - https://example.com/laura-mccown
    The Gottmans on relationship dynamics - https://example.com/gottmans
    Alan Sheldon and the Daddying Movement - https://example.com/daddying-movement

     

     

    1 hr 3 min
  • Ep 31: Hidden Forces Behind Mothers' Choices with Corinne Low

    Check out https://www.corinnelow.com/ 

    Please find me on Instagram and TikTok @beahappierparent

    Redefining Gender Roles, Parenthood, and Work-Life Balance: Insights from Corinne Low and Alex Trippier

    In this episode, we explore the evolving roles of men and women in relationships, workplaces, and parenting. Corinne Low shares her research and perspectives on how societal norms, biological factors, and economic forces shape our expectations and realities, offering actionable ideas for creating more equitable and fulfilling lives.

    Key Topics:
    • How biological and societal pressures influence women's career choices and perceived fairness
    • The impact of structural barriers on women's earnings and career progression, even when individual effort is high
    • The changing landscape of fatherhood and how increased involvement is transforming family dynamics
    • The importance of early conversations and proactive planning to prevent resentment and strengthen relationships
    • Rethinking success, gender norms, and the language around provider and protector roles
    • The role of policy, workplace culture, and social norms in supporting gender equality
    • Evidence from research on negotiation, gender traits, and workplace diversity
    • How to foster environments where vulnerability, conversation, and shared responsibilities flourish
    • Timestamps:

      00:00 - Introduction: Breaking down societal and biological influences on gender roles

      02:15 - The gender wage gap: structural barriers beyond individual choices
      04:50 - Evolutionary biology and short-term decision-making in motherhood
      07:20 - Impact of corporate policies and cultural norms on women's careers
      09:40 - The structural constraints faced by top earners and working mothers
      12:00 - The emotional labor and societal expectations placed on women at home
      13:30 - The persistence of gender defaults and the importance of shared responsibilities
      16:00 - How divorce laws and social reforms have shifted gender roles and labor distribution
      18:10 - Rethinking workplace culture: boundaries, flexibility, and talent retention
      20:30 - The importance of diverse traits and negotiation styles in the workplace
      23:15 - Strategies for men to participate more fully in domestic life and caregiving
      26:45 - The power of conversations early in relationships to foster partnership
      29:10 - The transformation of fatherhood in recent decades
      32:40 - The social and economic forces shaping parenting and education investments
      36:00 - Challenging societal anxiety about outdoor play and safety
      39:00 - The necessity of self-care and mental health for effective parenting
      43:00 - Redefining masculinity: protection and provider roles as supportive, not obligatory
      45:20 - How shared lived experiences and friendships indicate relationship strength
      48:05 - Practical steps for supporting partners through life's challenges
      50:10 - The future of gender norms: policy, culture, and individual action
      53:15 - Research on gender traits and negotiation: moving beyond stereotypes
      58:05 - Overcoming economic and social barriers to gender equality in family life
      61:05 - Creating supportive workplace environments for parents
      65:00 - Closing thoughts: Building a world where partnership and shared success thrive

      Resources & Links:
      • Corinne Low - LinkedIn
      • Corinne Low - Personal Website
      • Book recommendations on gender equality and parental roles
      • Research on negotiation styles
      • Study on gender wage gap and career progression
      • Connect with Corinne Low:
        • LinkedIn
        • Twitter
        • Website
        • This episode offers valuable insights for parents, policymakers, workplace leaders, and anyone interested in building equitable family and work environments. Don't miss the practical advice on fostering meaningful conversations that can transform relationships and organizational cultures.

          1 hr 5 min
        • Ep 30: The Stories We Tell Our Children with Francesca Cavallo

          You can find Francesca on Instagram @francescatherebel

          Find me on Instagram and TikTok @beahappier parent 

          Full episodes available with video on YouTube @alexindadland

           

          Keywords

          masculinity, gender equality, emotional intelligence, storytelling, consent, inner exploration, male solidarity, emotional isolation, redefining heroism, children's literature


          Summary

          In this conversation, Francesca Cavallo discusses the need for new narratives around masculinity, emphasizing the importance of exploring inner worlds and emotional intelligence. She critiques traditional masculinity and the isolation it creates, advocating for a redefinition that includes kindness, consent, and emotional connection. Through storytelling, she aims to inspire boys to embrace vulnerability and build healthy relationships, while also addressing the societal pressures that lead to emotional detachment. The discussion highlights the role of literature in shaping perceptions of masculinity and the necessity of male solidarity in fostering a compassionate society.


          Takeaways

          Francesca Cavallo emphasizes the need for new narratives in masculinity.

          Boys should be encouraged to explore their inner worlds through fiction.
          Consent should be taught as a skill, not a suspicion.
          Emotional isolation is a significant issue for men today.
          Redefining heroism involves kindness and vulnerability, not dominance.
          Stories shape our understanding of gender roles and expectations.
          Male solidarity can prevent violence and promote emotional health.
          Boys need to learn that rejection is a part of life and can be survived.
          Looking back at one's past is crucial for personal growth.
          The future of masculinity should focus on mutual liberation rather than competition.


          Titles

          Redefining Masculinity: A New Narrative

          Exploring Inner Worlds: The Future of Boys


          Sound bites

          "We must make the patriarchy obsolete."

          "Consent is a skill we need to teach."
          "We are our brother's keepers."


          Chapters

          00:00 Empowering Narratives: Rebel Girls and Boys

          07:57 Redefining Masculinity: Inner Exploration vs. Outer Heroism
          12:41 The Role of Fairy Tales in Shaping Gender Expectations
          18:46 The Crisis of Masculinity: Emotional Needs and Societal Expectations
          26:36 The Future of Masculinity: Building New Narratives
          28:42 Rites of Passage: Understanding Masculinity Across Cultures
          35:53 The Importance of Physical Comfort
          37:19 Exploring the Need for Touch
          38:22 Pirates and Masculinity
          39:27 Redefining Consent
          43:56 The Role of Rejection in Relationships
          46:48 The Blue Planet: Fatherhood and Vulnerability
          01:01:11 The Junk Planet: Reconnecting with Inner Child
          01:09:54 Rituals and the Future of Masculinity

          1 hr 12 min
        • Ep 29: Why is she the only one thinking about it? with Allison Daminger

          Check out Allison's website https://www.allisondaminger.com/

          follow me on Instagram and TikTok @beahappierparent

          Full videos of episodes available on YouTube @alexindadland

          Keywords

          parenting, cognitive labor, mental load, gender roles, household dynamics, essentialism, couples, equity, caregiving, family responsibilities


          Summary

          In this conversation, Allison Daminger discusses the complexities of parenting, cognitive labor, and the persistent gender roles that influence household dynamics. She explores the concept of cognitive labor as the mental work involved in managing household responsibilities, highlighting the emotional burdens that often accompany these tasks. The discussion delves into personal essentialism, the impact of societal expectations on gender roles, and the challenges couples face in achieving equitable divisions of labor. Daminger emphasizes the importance of intentionality and communication in navigating these dynamics, offering insights into how couples can work towards a more balanced partnership.


          Takeaways

          Allison Daminger's research stems from her curiosity about parenting.

          Cognitive labor involves anticipating needs and managing household tasks.
          The brain's tendency to ping with unresolved tasks adds to mental load.
          Gender roles still heavily influence household responsibilities.
          Personal essentialism complicates the understanding of gendered labor.
          Couples often fall into patterns that reflect societal expectations.
          Skill-building in household tasks can shift gendered expectations.
          Emotional burdens like guilt affect how parents manage responsibilities.
          Couples can achieve equity by adjusting on the margins of their roles.
          Understanding the historical context of gender roles is crucial for change.


          Titles

          The Hidden Work of Parenting

          Cognitive Labor: The Mental Load of Parenthood


          Sound bites

          "The brain hates unclosed loops."

          "We expect women to care the most."
          "We can adjust on the margins."


          Chapters

          00:00 Introduction to Cognitive Labor

          04:50 Understanding Cognitive Labor and Mental Load
          07:34 The Process of Cognitive Labor
          10:22 Measuring Cognitive Labor
          13:35 Personal Essentialism and Gender Roles
          16:27 The Superhero and the Bumbler
          19:29 Social Pressures and Accountability
          22:32 The Impact of Historical Context on Gender Roles
          25:30 Judgment and Expectations in Parenting
          28:26 Conclusion and Reflections on Cognitive Labor
          29:56 Anticipation of Judgment and Consequences
          31:16 Gendered Expectations in Household Roles
          32:59 Skill-Building and Gendered Narratives
          35:52 Hope for Change in Household Dynamics
          37:35 The Complexity of Same-Sex Relationships
          38:37 Intentionality in Division of Labor
          41:57 Status and Perception of Caregiving
          44:30 Cognitive vs. Physical Work in Households
          46:54 The Root of Responsibility in Parenting
          50:40 Moving Towards Equity in Household Tasks

          59 min

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