Nestor Gil and his wife Brandi are two of my favorite people who I greatly respect. Nestor came down to Florida from PA recently, and while he was here we did an art trade, because he is an excellent artist and Brandi wanted one of my prints so we did a trade. One of Nestor's practices is breadmaking, which as I understand it, gives hime a creative practice to enjoy without expectation that acts as a counterpoint to his creative practices that do carry expectation, as a practicing artist and professor. I never thought of bread in this way before, but it makes me want to start baking. Thanks for coming on the show Nestor; much love to you, Brandi, Harvest and Sol.