This week we have a guest -- and a guest co-host. Kate DeBartolo and Justin Magnuson help with the very large conversation around how to talk about our plans and wishes for ourselves in the event of chronic illness. Go gently into this conversation and emerge with a deeper connection to your full humanity.**********The Conversation Project: https://theconversationproject.org/**********Check out bonus episodes and get early access to the podcast at our Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinaryThis week's bonus episode answers the question: How is Healwell's leadership like a cartoon?**********About Our Guest:Ms. DeBartolo oversees The Conversation Project, IHI’s public engagement initiative to help people share their wishes for care through the end of life. In addition to leading The Conversation Project team and operations, Ms. DeBartolo manages and cultivates relationships with national and state-level organizations that help engage the general public in advance care planning. Since starting in July 2007, she has been involved in the 5 Million Lives Campaign, Improvement Map, Project JOINTS, and many of IHI’s other large-scale initiatives. Prior to joining IHI, Ms. DeBartolo worked as a grant analyst at The California Endowment. She is a graduate of Wellesley College and currently lives in Washington DC with her husband and son. Support the show

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