In this episode of the Be Wealthy Podcast, Brett Tanner sits down with Michael Velasco, founder of Exchangeable, for a deep dive into the powerful world of 1031 Exchanges and how savvy investors use them to grow wealth while legally minimizing taxes.
Michael shares his 20+ year journey through real estate, accounting, and tax strategy, showing how every step of his career prepared him to become a leading expert in 1031 exchanges. Together, Brett and Michael break down the fundamentals of exchanges, common mistakes investors make, and the advanced strategies high-net-worth individuals use to protect and multiply their portfolios.
This episode blends real-world investing strategy, tax education, mentorship, and long-term wealth thinking—making it essential listening for any serious real estate investor.
🔑 TOP TAKEAWAYS- Taxes don’t destroy wealth—poor strategy does.
With the right tools, investors can defer taxes and keep more capital compounding.
- Timing is everything in a 1031 exchange.
Miss the 45-day or 180-day deadline and the entire exchange can fail.
- Reverse exchanges create opportunity in competitive markets.
Buying first gives investors the upper hand when inventory is tight.
- You must reinvest all proceeds to fully defer taxes.
Any leftover cash becomes taxable “boot.”
- Any investment property can be exchanged for another.
Residential, commercial, or land can all qualify when structured correctly.
- Execution matters more than intention.
Even great investment plans fail without proper structure and guidance.
- Mentorship shortens the learning curve.
Learning from experts helps investors avoid costly mistakes.
- Education is a wealth multiplier.
The more you understand tax strategy and investing, the faster you grow.
- Wealth is built through reinvestment, not consumption.
Capital must keep moving into productive assets to grow.
- Long-term thinking always wins.
The biggest rewards go to those who play the long game, not the quick win.
⏱️ TIMESTAMPS00:00 – Welcome to the Be Wealthy Podcast & Introduction to 1031 Exchanges
01:15 – Meet Michael Velasco: 20+ Years in Real Estate
03:00 – The REO and Short Sale Market During the Crash
05:30 – Why Michael Left Traditional Real Estate for Tax Strategy
07:15 – Discovering the Power of 1031 Exchanges
09:30 – What a 1031 Exchange Really Is (Simple Breakdown)
12:00 – The 45-Day Identification Rule Explained
14:45 – The Biggest Risk in a Forward Exchange
17:00 – Why High-Level Investors Prefer Reverse Exchanges
20:00 – Buying First, Selling Later: How Reverse Exchanges Work
23:00 – Using LLCs and Qualified Intermediaries
27:30 – What Happens to the Money During an Exchange
30:00 – How to Avoid Paying Capital Gains and Depreciation Recapture
33:45 – Investment Property Rules and Common CPA Mistakes
36:00 – How Long You Must Hold a Property Before Exchanging
39:00 – Taxpayer Rules and Entity Requirements
42:30 – Using 1031 Exchanges to Scale From One Property to Many
46:00 – Why Timing and Market Cycles Matter
49:30 – Investing in Mentorship and Personal Growth
53:00 – The Role of Education in Financial Freedom
56:00 – Final Advice on Wealth, Risk, and Long-Term Strategy
🧭 RESOURCES & MENTIONS- Exchangeable – Michael Velasco’s 1031 Exchange Company
- Qualified Intermediary (QI) Best Practices
- Forward vs. Reverse 1031 Exchanges
- Passive Real Estate Investing
- Triple Net (NNN) Lease Investments
- Mentorship & Mastermind Groups
- Personal Development & Investor Education
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