Listen to Dr. Sandra explain the differences between trauma and PTSD. Can trauma be passed down from one generation to the next and what does that matter? She shares critical insight about the role of story and how that informs whether an event will be become traumatic or not. If you are thinking about how to best be prepared for the long term effects of this moment on our hearts and minds, this will be a particularly interesting interview for you.

Listen to Rose share her updates on what life has been like during this time with starting a new job and now also move into a new home. We talk about how some of the first times folks started to leave their homes was as protests to defend Black lives were starting. What can the current protests teach us about how to move forward together? We also then go deep in to thinking about how can we incentivize folks to start wearing masks in public and to stay socially distant. What can we learn from the initial marketing of the Walkman? How are folks incentivized to wear seatbelts now? What marketing strategy and other cultural changes were needed to make that change a reality?