In this powerful episode of the Amicable Divorce Network Podcast, host Tracy Ann Moore-Grant sits down with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry, high conflict divorce strategists and founders of Been There Got Out, to discuss their new book When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You — and the very real, very painful issue of parental alienation.

Lisa and Chris work daily with clients they describe as battling their own personal terrorists through the family law system — and in this conversation, they pull back the curtain on what alienation actually looks like, how it starts, and what parents can do to protect their children and themselves.

💻 Find Lisa & Chris at beentheregotout.com |

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📚 When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You — available on Amazon

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