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"Folks tend to try and think about and imagine all the possible race and gender mistakes."

Trina interview Alfonso about the ways workplace leaders try to feel ready for what's coming + how they could shift what readiness really means. They share a futurist tool + name some common mistakes bosses make.

"The old way of doing things isn't producing the results that we want."

Trina + Alfonso's new book, Hiring Revolution: A Guide to Disrupt Racism + Sexism in Hiring, is officially on book shelves!

In this episode of the podcast, they share an overview of the what's and why's of the book. Check out these insights + then head to Hiring Revolution Dot Com to buy your own copy.

"It's not knowledge, it's about the ability to think different and act differently."

Our co-hosts dig into why + how organizational change work is not about bystander training or a one off seminar to get you ready for every possible scenario. They share five core areas where we have to build muscle in order to build capacity.

"Don't look for the perfect candidate, look for the perfectly capable candidate."

Alfonso + Trina welcome Program Director + Senior Researcher for the Harvard Business School's Project on Managing the Future of Work + The project on US competitiveness, Manjari Raman.

They discuss the recent report released by the Harvard Business school on "how leaders can improve hiring practices to uncover missed talent pools, close skills gaps, and improve diversity."

'Hidden Workers: Untapped Talent' report

Also, you can now buy our new book 'Hiring Revolution: A Guide to Disrupt Racism + Sexism in Hiring.'

In this mini episode, Alfonso + Trina spend time on how workplaces could approach finding + welcoming in new workers who have been forced out of their home countries.

"The reason we need these celebratory moments, is because of the legacy of violence, it's because of the legacy of white supremacy, it's because of the legacy of genocide and colonization and slavery."

Alfonso + Trina are joined by Team Dynamics' Storyteller Alfred Walking Bull to dig into things like Indigenous People's Day + Hispanic Heritage Month. Alfonso share's his relationship to Hispanic Heritage Month as a third- generation Mexican-American raised in Minnesota. Alfred talks about how growing up on a reservation shapes his relationship to time + curiosity. And the trio gets into the ways colonization shows up in the modern, US workplace + offers some ways to take action.

"Data does not, in face, change hearts + minds."

Alfonso + Trina dig into the various ways we both take in and absorb the latest information gathered from the 2020 census. Alfonso breaks down developmental mindsets + then they both move through how each mindset is likely taking in and pushing out information.

"There has always been a mixture of pain and celebration at the same time."

Trina + Alfonso take some time to notice what's bringing them joy in work + life. They talk about building capacity to experience joy & the importance of joy in justice work.

"If I'm being invited in, my comfort may not always be central."

Urban, Rural, and Suburban areas are often pitted against one another politically. Alfonso + Trina take these perceptions about place + share some of their own work on noticing + disruption assumptions. They offer up tools + ways of thinking for folks who want to be in real + right relationship with people from all varieties of place.

"If you want to diversify your candidate pool across lines of race and gender, you're going to have to diversify your questions."

Trina + Alfonso share a peak at some myth-busting featured in the upcoming 'Hiring Revolution' book. This conversation focuses on the ways a focus on fairness in hiring gets in the way of our goals.