Pastor Steve Mickel joins Ben and Evan to discuss why it is impossible to be spiritually healthy and emotionally unhealthy at the same time. Other topics of conversation include unnecessary separation of sacred and secular and how churches tend to skip over single people in our messaging.

This week, Ben and Evan officially launch Behind The Message. This episode explains what we’ll be up to and how you can participate in the conversation.

Ben and Evan talk to Westside’s Creative Arts Pastor, Casey Parnell, about what we do behind the scenes before and during the biggest weekend of the year.

After the death of her oldest son, Suzanne Mickel has spent months considering the reality of heaven. Ben and Evan sit down with her to discuss her message on life, loss and how to be present.

Is talking about evil and the devil in church taboo? Overused? Not talked about enough? What should we do with our doubts? Ben and Evan discuss Pastor Bo Stern’s message on Ephesians chapter 6, “War this Way”.

Pastor Corey Parnell stops by to discuss the top 10 (or more) worship songs of all time. Did we miss your favorite? Comment below.