The world is a dark place, and Felicia and Rachel intro this episode recounting their feels.  The interview starts 15 minutes in, where they interview the wonderful Karen Catlin, author, coach, and advocate for inclusive tech workplaces. Karen spent 25 years in tech as a software engineer, VP, and CEO. Then she moved into leadership coaching, speaking, and advocating for a more inclusive workplace. She's also the force behind the incredible Better Allies, a resource we reference often! Please note that we recorded our interview with Karen on May 15th, 2020. Quick Links: Better Allies Karen Catlin Jacon Collier Our Feminism is Intersectional. Black Lives Matter.   Did you like this episode? Subscribe, rate, review and reach out to us on the social media platform of your choice. Tell us who you’d like to hear from, ask us questions, or just say hi!  

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