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HOST
Josh Smargiassi — Host, Boomerang Office Furniture / Common Sense Office Furniture
GUEST
Joe Bettag — Veteran Real Estate Investor & Distressed Asset Specialist
WHAT WE COVER
• From the S&L Crisis to Today — lessons learned from navigating over 40 years of real estate market crashes and distressed asset cycles
• Building wealth in downturns — how experienced investors position themselves to find opportunity when "there's blood on the street"
• The true value of company culture & mentorship — why young professionals miss out on crucial growth and guidance when working fully remote
• Remote work vs. office accountability — balancing flexibility with structured goals, office presence, and management
• Mortgage meltdown reflections — how past financial crises shaped modern workplace dynamics and interpersonal connections
KEY QUOTES
"Serious money can be made when there's blood on the street, if you know what you're doing and how to position yourself." — Joe Bettag
"Without a mentor, you have to learn a lot of hard lessons. Finding a good mentor is crucial." — Joe Bettag
"If you're going to do work from home, you better have specific goals and keep people accountable." — Joe Bettag
WHERE TO LISTEN & WATCH
• Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major podcast platforms
• Subscribe, rate, and review to stay updated on future episodes
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseof.com
HOST
Joshua Smargiassi — Host, Boomerang Office Furniture / Common Sense Office Furniture
GUEST
Stephen Nalley — Founder & CEO, Black Briar Advisors
WHAT WE COVER
• Evolution of hotel design — tracking the shift from identical, "box" hotel rooms to distinct, boutique, and commercial-inspired spaces
• Brand layering & soft brands — how major chains like Marriott and Hilton utilize soft brands to target specific traveler demographics
• Hotel furniture vs. commercial furniture — how modern hospitality design is adopting commercial durability, style, and residential comfort
• High Point, NC: Ground zero for furniture — Stephen’s early experience turning a 300-room hotel into a year-round interactive showroom
• Technology integration & functional space — why today's lobbies, nightstands, and workspaces must prioritize accessibility to power and connectivity
• Budget reallocation in hotel projects — leveraging smart furniture sourcing to free up funds for critical operational and lighting upgrades
KEY QUOTES
"Hotel furniture does not look like hotel furniture anymore... hotel furniture looks like commercial furniture now, and to me, I love it because the whole concept of a hotel is making you feel like you're at home." — Stephen Nalley
"You go back to the 80s when I grew up—no cell phones, no computers, no MacBooks, no iPads. Now, everybody you would possibly see anywhere has at least two of those." — Stephen Nalley
"A lobby is a functional space now. There's no such thing as a lobby anymore just to pass through." — Stephen Nalley
WHERE TO LISTEN & WATCH
• Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major podcast platforms
• Subscribe, rate, and review to stay updated on future episodes
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseof.com
The Legal Lean Sigma Approach
"Process improvement sits at the intersection of employee experience, client experience, and brand experience."
The Importance of Process in Organizations
This sentiment resonates with my own experiences as a leader. Often, the best insights come from those who are on the ground doing the work every day.
The 5S Methodology: Key Elements
1. **Sort**: Remove unnecessary items from the workspace.
2. **Set in Order**: Create designated places for everything.
3. **Shine**: Keep the workspace clean and inspect regularly.
4. **Standardize**: Establish rules and procedures.
5. **Sustain**: Make the new practices a habitual part of the work culture.
For a more in-depth exploration of these topics, tune into the full episode!
HOST
Johnathan — Host, Boomerang Office Furniture / Common Sense Office Furniture GUEST
Iris Schmidt — Vice President of Operations & Finance, Boomerang Office Furniture
WHAT WE COVER
• 150 MPH New York pace vs. Philadelphia speed — how regional energy and work culture influence operational drive and efficiency
• Pianos to computer keyboards — Iris’s journey from a New York performing arts major to over 40 years of office furniture operations
• The evolution of the workstation — tracking the physical shift from 64-inch high panel cubicles to low-profile collaborative systems and sit-stand desks
• Post-COVID workplace balance — navigating hybrid expectations, the limitations of Zoom ideation, and why physical presence drives cross-departmental collaboration
• Culture starts at the top — eliminating executive hierarchy, fostering an open-door environment, and why no task is "beneath" leadership
• Work ethic across generations — exploring how personal upbringing and accountability impact team-centric attitudes more than generational labels
• Designing with intent — utilizing privacy phone booths, sit-stand solutions, and involving employees early when moving or redecorating workspaces
KEY QUOTES
"New York never rests... Philadelphia may be a big city, we are not New York. The speed down here may not be Des Moines, Iowa, but it is definitely not New York City. But I feel like I've brought my energy and 'let's get things done' to the neighborhood." — Iris Schmidt
"Culture here starts from the top... doors always open, and none of us are any better than anyone else." — Iris Schmidt
"Every employee, regardless of what level they're at, needs to do what they're hired to do plus. You can't just show up... you must go above and beyond." — Iris Schmidt
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseof.com
Believe in Your Office | The Secret to Workplace Culture Isn’t What You Think
HOST
Johnathan Grzybowski — Co-Founder at Penji
GUEST
Ryan Gordon — Sales Leader & Commercial Furniture Specialist
WHAT WE COVER
• From team captain to commercial sales — how early leadership experiences shaped Ryan’s human-centric approach to sales
• The evolution of cold outreach — why traditional cold calling is shifting toward building authentic, in-person B2B relationships
• Furniture as a culture catalyst — how physical workspace aesthetics and office design set the tone for employee experience
• Helping vs. selling — why B2B sales is less about pushing products and more about helping clients fulfill their vision
• Staying relevant without being pushy — navigating long sales cycles while maintaining meaningful, value-first client touchpoints
• Retail vs. B2B dynamics — why one-off transactional selling fails in commercial furniture and complex account management
KEY QUOTES
"Sales isn't about pushing a product; it's about coming alongside a client to help them bring their vision to life." — Ryan Gordon
"Your office design isn't just about chairs and desks—it's the physical footprint of your company culture." — Johnathan Grzybowski
PRODUCTS & REFERENCES MENTIONED
Modern B2B Cold Outreach Frameworks — strategies for shifting from transactional pitches to relationship-based selling
Commercial Furniture & Spatial Design Solutions — creating high-impact physical workspaces that reflect brand identity
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseoff.com
Believe in Your Office | Reclaiming the Workplace (Part 2: Tech Overload & the Lost Art of Connection)
HOSTS
Josh Smargiassi — Host, Boomerang Office Furniture / Common Sense Office Furniture
John Sorrell — Co-Host & Office Furniture Industry Veteran
WHAT WE COVER
Sports stadiums & full houses — why post-COVID crowds are flocking back to Braves and Phillies games just to feel a sense of community The "doomscroll" trap — how phone addiction, screen fatigue, and dopamine drips are pulling us away from the real world
AI-written emails — why "Top of the Morning" robotic outreach feels insulting and how to spot synthetic messaging in your inbox Outlook's new 'Like' button — are quick digital reactions replacing actual workplace conversation?
The "Show Me, Don't Tell Me" phenomenon — why we talk ourselves into thinking we've accomplished something just by watching YouTube or Reels
Nostalgia on the landline — remembering the awkwardness of asking a girl's father out on a date and $900 flip-phone texting bills
Anxiety and human interaction — why taking real-world social risks builds essential communication skills
KEY QUOTES
"You can believe you're doing something by talking about the thing that you're going to do. If I talk about something long enough, you can convince yourself that you've done it... I'm convinced people watch cooking videos who don't cook. They watch the video, get the satisfaction, and then order DoorDash." — John Sorrell
"When someone sends you an AI email, you're like, 'Wait a minute, bro... you never spoke like that before!' It's kind of insulting because you couldn't take the time to really think about it." — Josh Smargiassi
PRODUCTS & REFERENCES MENTIONED
The Modern Outlook "Like" Button — digital reaction features changing workplace communication
High-Density Texting & Landline Nostalgic Relics — 10-cent text messages and wall-mounted landlines
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseoff.com
📲 Missed Part 1? Go back and check out Part 1, where we break down modern office design, natural light, and whether breakout spaces are actually getting used!
HOSTS
WHAT WE COVER
KEY QUOTES
"I think you have to make sure the space is somewhere where you want to go... design it so there are touches of home, so at 2:30 or 3:00 in the afternoon, people actually want to be there." — Josh Smargiassi
"Collaborative areas get the wrong rap. You think it's just whiteboards and bean bag chairs... but it's really about giving people a reason to work together again after being so isolated." — Josh Smargiassi
PRODUCTS & REFERENCES MENTIONED
Breakout Lounge Seating — flexible, casual seating designed for informal team brainstorming and Zoom calls
High-Density Mobile Shelving — classic mechanical-assist rolling file systems on floor tracks
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseoff.com
📲 Stay Tuned: Catch Part 2 next week, where we tackle phone addiction, spot-checking AI emails, and the lost art of real-life conversations!
CONNECT WITH US
Youtube: @BelieveInYourOffice
Spotify: Believe In Your Office
HOSTS
Josh Smargiassi — Host, Boomerang Office Furniture / Common Sense Office Furniture
John Sorrell — Co-Host & Office Furniture Industry Veteran
WHAT WE COVER
KEY QUOTES
"You don't need a 40-person boardroom. We did them — they were incredible — but now half the room zooms in anyway."
"The reason people do cubicles instead of walls: full write-off in year one vs. 1/39th depreciation for forty years. Most people never knew that."
"We can build out an entire office without doing any construction. That's the thing people never knew about Boomerang and Common Sense."
"Everything that was old is new again. The kids are hacky sacking now and nobody's on their phones. There's something happening."
PRODUCTS & REFERENCES MENTIONED
Artifex — acoustic felt cubicle ceiling panels (creates privacy without full enclosure)
Boomerang's showroom, South Jersey — features app-controlled zone lighting and a live example of the felt cubicle ceiling installation
The furniture-as-construction argument: full Section 179 write-off vs. 39-year straight-line depreciation for construction
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseoff.com
HOSTS
Josh Smargiassi — Host, Boomerang Office Furniture / Common Sense Office Furniture
John Sorrell — Co-Host & Office Furniture Industry Veteran
WHAT WE COVER
KEY QUOTES
"You don't need a 40-person boardroom. We did them — they were incredible — but now half the room zooms in anyway."
"The reason people do cubicles instead of walls: full write-off in year one vs. 1/39th depreciation for forty years. Most people never knew that."
"We can build out an entire office without doing any construction. That's the thing people never knew about Boomerang and Common Sense."
"Everything that was old is new again. The kids are hacky sacking now and nobody's on their phones. There's something happening."
PRODUCTS & REFERENCES MENTIONED
Artifex — acoustic felt cubicle ceiling panels (creates privacy without full enclosure)
Boomerang's showroom, South Jersey — features app-controlled zone lighting and a live example of the felt cubicle ceiling installation
The furniture-as-construction argument: full Section 179 write-off vs. 39-year straight-line depreciation for construction
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseoff.com
GUEST
Adam Wayne — 25-year veteran, Global Furniture Group, Northeast Region (PA, NJ, NY, DE)
Website: globalfurnituregroup.com
WHAT WE COVER
KEY QUOTES
"You almost have to get a height-adjustable table now to attract people. And it's so inexpensive not to."
"From a toothpick with a Global symbol to the sticker on the toilet paper — that's what tells you what the main focus of a business is."
"We can build out an entire office without doing any construction. Most people have no idea that's even possible."
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
NeoCon — the annual international contract furnishings trade show, held every June at the Merchandise Mart in Chicago
Fulton Market, Chicago — where Global is opening its new showroom for 2026
Global's Free Fit height-adjustable table series — includes a Bluetooth app that tracks sit/stand patterns
Artifex — acoustic felt cubicle ceiling panels referenced in the John & Josh segment
CONNECT WITH GLOBAL FURNITURE GROUP
globalfurnituregroup.com
SPONSORED BY
Boomerang Office Furniture — boomerangofficefurniture.com
Common Sense Office Furniture — commonsenseoff.com
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