Ben Mones, the CEO and Founder of Fama and Gerardo Martinez, the CEO of Triple Direct Leadership join the show to share their thoughts on finding the right talent and leadership development. Ben talks about the benefits of online screening and the importance of AI in finding out about a candidate. Gerardo talks about his experience in the Marine Corps, how that framed his leadership and how his utilization of the outdoors as a tool for leadership development and training can deeply impact a leaders ability to be effective and grow.