Ben Shapiro, editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire and host of The Ben Shapiro Show, joins the show to discuss his latest book, Lions and Scavengers. Unlike his previous works, this book was written over several years and was inspired by a 2023 trip to London following the October 7th attacks. Shapiro was scheduled to debate at Oxford University but had to leave London due to security concerns amid pro-Palestinian protests. He was struck by the anti-Western sentiment he encountered at one of the world’s most prestigious institutions, which catalyzed the book’s central theme.

Lions and Scavengers explores the cultural battle between two archetypes: the “lions,” who build, innovate, and uphold civilization through duty and values, and the “scavengers,” who are driven by envy and seek to dismantle the very systems that sustain society. Shapiro argues that Western civilization is under attack from within—by those who benefit from it yet despise its foundations like capitalism, family, and faith.

He criticizes the tendency of “lions” to remain polite and passive in the face of cultural decay, urging instead for firm, unapologetic defense of values. He emphasizes the importance of instilling strong moral and civic values in children, including biblical principles, property rights, and free speech.

Shapiro also discusses the role of the internet in amplifying both destructive and constructive voices. While it can unite people around shared values, it also enables isolated individuals to bond over shared resentment. He warns that economic downturns could further fuel the “scavenger” mentality and stresses the need for strong leadership and cultural clarity.

Ultimately, Lions and Scavengers is a call to action for those who believe in preserving and strengthening the foundations of Western society.

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