Today's subject is all about making meaning with project-based learning . My guest today is the passionate and entertaining Ben Talsma from Blue Apple Teacher. Ben also co-wrote the fauxmercial "Empower-Mints" with me. This parody of the old Mento commercials features the very talented musician Robby Helperin of Spotlight Music, giving us his cheesy best, and Eli Schiff, who is one of my favorite voice actors. After my initial interview with Ben, he nails The 5-Minute Game Show, and then I bring him back for a few more minutes to update us on what is happening now to accommodate the various modalities of learning that this fall is challenging us with.