Benjamin Budzak is one of the geniuses behind Thought Cast and one of the most cutting-edge electronic impression pads. He hops on the show to discuss developing technology in magic, the use of electronics, and a lot more. The highlight of the episode is a brand new trick with an ordinary etch a sketch that makes Erik swear like a sailor because he is so surprised. Plus, you get some insight into the Penguin Magic Black Friday Sales Event.