In this episode, we’re sitting down with the incredible Cade Robertson — coach, gym owner, and all round masculine man in business — to explore where the masculine meets the feminine within business.

We asked Cade the questions we wish more people were asking — from how men and women approach business differently, to what it takes to lead with integrity, back yourself unapologetically, and own your energy in every season.

This episode is filled with realness, reflection, and tangible takeaways from someone who walks his talk.

We explore:

• Cade’s evolution in business and what’s shaped his success

• How men and women show up differently (and what we can learn from each other)

• The role of environment, habits, and community in sustainable growth

• His biggest business mistake so far (and the lesson he carries forward)

• Why women in business can (and should) claim more power, presence, and permission

This is a grounded, honest conversation that bridges mindset, energy, and entrepreneurship — and might just spark a shift in how you lead.

Connect with Cade over on instagram @caderobertsonx

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Let’s be real — no one builds a business without stacking a few (or many) mistakes along the way.

In this episode, we’re peeling back the curtain on the biggest “oops” moments we’ve had in business — from ghosting offers and ignoring the tax man (Tess, we’re looking at you) to chasing what we thought we were meant to do (hello, corporate), instead of owning what actually lit us up.

Expect honest stories, lessons we had to learn the hard way, and a reminder that messing up is a feature of entrepreneurship — not a flaw.

We dive into:

• Tess’s tax f*ck up

• The offers that never made it past the ‘close friends’ hype stage

• Why Tiana walked away from a thriving creative business to follow a safer path — and how that led her back to her true calling

• How we both reframed “failure” as part of building clarity, resilience, and alignment

• Why we’re not afraid to own our mistakes — and what we’re taking with us into the next season of business

You’re not failing — you’re learning. And in this episode, we’re giving you permission to laugh, cringe, and growthrough it all with us.

💻 Build Brand Launch – Our rolling mastermind for big-vision women building a bold, magnetic brand. Learn more about it here:
buildbrandlaunch.com.au/bbl

📲 Connect with us on Instagram:

Tess: @tess_trainor
Tiana: @tianawhetnall

“You should never mix friendship and business.”
We’ve all heard it — and in this episode, we’re calling BS.

Running a business with your best friend can be a disaster… but it can also be one of the most expansive, fulfilling, and aligned things you ever do — if you build it right.

In this juicy follow-up to our first episode, we’re lifting the lid on how we’ve made it work (and continue to), even through high-pressure seasons like bodybuilding prep, big personal transitions, and the inevitable ups and downs of startup life.

We share:

• Why we ignored the “don’t go into business with friends” advice

• The boundaries, communication, and deep respect that keep our friendship and business thriving

• How we navigate different energy seasons without resentment

• The intentional space we hold for both personal and professional growth — side by side

• What we didn’t expect when we launched BBL… and what we’ve learned since

Whether you're thinking of going into business with a friend, or just curious about how we manage it all without burning out (or blowing up), this episode is a real look into the inner workings of a bestie-built brand.

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💻 Build Brand Launch – Our rolling mastermind for big-vision women building a bold, magnetic brand. Learn more about it here:

⁠buildbrandlaunch.com.au/bbl⁠

📲 Connect with us on Instagram:


Tess: @tess_trainor
Tiana: @tianawhetnall

In this raw and laughter-filled episode, we’re taking you behind the scenes of a friendship that didn’t just happen — it was built. From the initial “soft launch” of our bond during a group holiday, to poolside chats where our partners became instant best mates (thank god!), to vulnerable conversations in the car about wanting more from our friendship — this episode traces the full evolution of how we became each other’s person.

We open up about past friendship wounds, the heartbreak of losing best friends, and the intentional work it took to create what we now have. There were awkward chats, emotional risks, weekly FaceTimes, voice note ‘dates’, and yes — moments where we had to grieve the past to fully receive the depth of connection we were calling in.

We talk about the trust it took to go all-in, the hilarity of becoming "those" besties overnight, and the surprising role our partners played in anchoring it all. And then... came the business. BBL (Build Brand Launch) was the natural next chapter — but it didn’t come without its own challenges.

We’ll tell that story and more in this episode — and in part two, we’ll take you behind the curtain of what it’s really like to be in business with your best friend.

This is for the women who are craving deeper friendships, grieving old ones, or wondering how to find their person — and how to keep them. It’s messy. It’s magic. And it’s all here.

🔗 LINKS + THINGS WE MENTIONED:

💻 Build Brand Launch – Our 12-week mastermind for big-vision women building a bold, magnetic brand. Next round starts soon:
buildbrandlaunch.com.au/bbl

📲 Connect with us on Instagram:

Tess: @tess_trainor
Tiana: @tianawhetnall

🎙️ Want to hear us talk about being in business together? Stay tuned for Part 2 — dropping next week.