Debbie talks to bestselling author Thomas E. Ricks about his writing process, what really goes into writing a book, and what drives him to write. He's working on his eighth book. The last five, including "Churchill & Orwell" and "First Principles," have been New York Times bestsellers.

The Gap Year Podcast is about making the most of the collective gap year we’ve all been living through. As it is Debbie's show she also gets to talk to cool people about things she really cares about. High on that list is the topic of writing.