Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, host Paulette Rigo welcomes Kim Corven, a divorce expert from Canada. They discuss Kim's journey from a traditional litigator to a mediator and divorce coach, emphasizing the importance of empowering clients through education and innovative approaches to divorce. The conversation covers the emotional and financial impacts of divorce, the historical context of divorce law, and the significance of maintaining healthy relationships for the sake of children. Kim shares insights on how to approach difficult conversations about divorce and the resources available to support individuals navigating this challenging life transition.

Takeaways:

• Kim Corven emphasizes the importance of maintaining a good relationship between children and their parents during divorce.
• Divorce is often treated as a legal issue, but it fundamentally stems from emotional and relational dynamics.
• Education and empowerment are crucial for individuals facing divorce, helping them make informed decisions.
• The historical context of divorce law has shaped current practices, often leading to unnecessary conflict.
• Innovative approaches, such as rituals for divorce, can help individuals process their emotions and move forward.
• Mediation can be a more effective and less costly alternative to traditional litigation in divorce cases.
• Understanding the emotional toll of divorce is essential for both parents and children.
• The conversation around divorce needs to shift from adversarial to collaborative for better outcomes.
• Divorce is a common experience, and individuals should not feel isolated in their struggles.
• Resources and support systems are vital for those navigating the complexities of divorce.

About Zoey:

Zoey Charif isn’t just redefining how we think about love — she’s giving us a blueprint for it. As the author of Love Can, In Fact, Be Calculated, Zoey spent nearly two decades decoding the patterns of human attraction, pulling from her background in criminology, data analytics, and a relentless drive to challenge everything we’ve been taught about relationships.

Born in Afghanistan, raised in Vancouver, Canada, and now based in Orange County, California, Zoey brings a rare blend of emotional depth, analytical precision, and lived experience to her work. Her framework isn’t just theoretical — it’s coachable, actionable, and designed to help people transform how they choose, build, and sustain relationships.

Her work is a wake-up call: love isn’t magic. It’s math, psychology, and emotional mastery.

Outside of the relationship space, Zoey is a powerhouse entrepreneur — the founder of Business Plans USA— helping startups and established businesses secure funding and scale with precision.

Whether she’s helping people find aligned love or aligned success, Zoey’s mission is the same: to turn hope into mastery and potential into reality.

Summary

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, host Paulette Rigo speaks with Zoey, the author of 'Love Can In Fact Be Calculated.' They discuss the importance of understanding love through a new framework that includes the concept of a 'self score'—a numerical assessment of self-respect and self-love. The conversation explores how this framework can help individuals assess their relationships, choose the right partners, and avoid past mistakes. They emphasize the significance of purpose in life and relationships, and how self-awareness can lead to healthier connections. The episode concludes with resources for listeners seeking further guidance.

Takeaways:

• Understanding love requires a new framework.
• Self score is crucial for relationship sustainability.
• You can't love someone else unless you love yourself.
• Identifying core values is essential for relationship health.
• The perfect partner should be slightly above your self score.
• Low self scores can lead to toxic relationships.
• Purpose in life enhances relationship satisfaction.
• Self-awareness is key to making better relationship choices.
• Emotional intelligence plays a significant role in love.
• It's important to reassess relationships regularly.

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About John:

Today’s guest is John Nachlinger, a divorce attorney, mediator, and founder of Netsquire — a New Jersey law firm redefining how families divorce with peace and purpose. He’s also the creator of Divorce Shield, a coaching platform that helps men navigate divorce without losing their minds, their money, or their kids. Finally, he is the host of the podcast, Get Divorced Without Getting Screwed.

Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, host Paulette Rigo speaks with attorney and mediator John Nachlinger about his journey into family law and the creation of his firm, NetSquire, which focuses on mediation and alternative dispute resolution. They discuss the emotional toll of divorce trials, the importance of mindset in navigating divorce, and the launch of Divorce Shield, a program aimed at supporting men through the divorce process. The conversation emphasizes that divorce doesn't have to be traumatic and that individuals have the power to choose a better path for their divorce experience.

Takeaways:

• John Nachlinger fell into family law unexpectedly.
• He aims to redefine the divorce process with mediation.
• The emotional aspect of divorce is often overlooked.
• Many people don't know they can resolve divorce amicably.
• Divorce trials can be extremely taxing on all parties involved.
• Divorce Shield supports men in navigating their divorce.
• Mindset is crucial in approaching divorce effectively.
• The traditional view of divorce as adversarial is changing.
• People need to understand the emotional and business sides of divorce.
• Choosing the right process can lead to a better divorce outcome.

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About Patrick:

Pat spent the first decade of his career litigating high net worth divorce cases and wrote a book on this very subject. He's taken all of those skills and experiences and helps high net worth women going through the divorce process navigate it as strategically and efficiently as possible.

Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, Paulette Rigo welcomes Patrick Kilbane, a family law attorney and wealth advisor, to discuss the complexities of divorce. They explore the importance of having a plan, the roles of various professionals in the divorce process, common mistakes people make, and the significance of understanding financial affidavits. Patrick shares insights from his experience in high net worth divorce cases and emphasizes the need for clients to be informed and prepared. The conversation also touches on the emotional aspects of divorce and the legal implications of marriage. Patrick's book, 'Move Forward Confidently,' aims to demystify the divorce process and provide guidance to those navigating this challenging time.

Takeaways:

• Divorce is a complex process that requires careful planning.
• Having a strategic plan can alleviate fear during divorce.
• Many people make the mistake of not understanding their financial situation.
• Clients often procrastinate on necessary paperwork, complicating the process.
• Understanding the legal nature of marriage is crucial for navigating divorce.
• Financial affidavits are essential for disclosing assets and liabilities.
• It's important to work with professionals who understand the divorce process.
• Communication between clients and attorneys is key to a successful outcome.
• The emotional aspect of divorce can lead to avoidance of necessary tasks.
• Patrick's book provides valuable insights and resources for those facing divorce.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Divorce and Mediation

02:16 Understanding the Divorce Process

05:51 The Importance of Planning in Divorce

11:31 Common Mistakes in Divorce Cases

17:34 Navigating Financial Affidavits and Assets

22:15 The Legal Nature of Marriage and Divorce

23:07 Patrick's Book: Move Forward Confidently

28:00 Connecting with Patrick and Resources

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About Daniel:

Daniel Ryan is the voice behind That Family Law Guy, a candid and compassionate advocate for parents navigating the storm of separation, custody battles, and domestic abuse conflict.

He provides unfiltered expertise with real-world impact. Daniel brings many years of frontline experience supporting families through divorce, custody, and domestic conflict—without hiding behind legal jargon. His no-nonsense, story-driven approach helps audiences truly understand the human cost of family breakdown and what they can do to navigate it more wisely.

Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, host Paulette Rigo speaks with UK family law attorney Daniel Ryan about the challenges faced by individuals navigating the family court system. They discuss the importance of accessibility in legal representation, the intimidating nature of the court system, and the need for better communication between attorneys and clients. Daniel introduces his new platform, Family Court Mastery, designed to provide individuals with the tools and knowledge needed to navigate family court without legal representation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of courtroom etiquette and the need for a respectful approach to the legal process.

Takeaways:

• Daniel Ryan emphasizes the need for accessible legal services in family law.
• The family court system can be intimidating and overwhelming for clients.
• Courtroom etiquette is crucial for being taken seriously in legal proceedings.
• Family Court Mastery aims to empower individuals with knowledge about the legal process.
• Pro bono services are essential for those who cannot afford legal representation.
• The legal profession often uses complex language that can confuse clients.
• Respecting the court can lead to a more favorable outcome for clients.
• Mediation can help couples avoid contentious litigation.
• Preparation and organization are key to navigating divorce successfully.
• The future of legal services may include more accessible online platforms.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Better Divorce Podcast and Guest Introduction

03:02 The Role of Accessibility in Family Law

06:08 Navigating the Family Court System

08:46 The Challenges of Family Court Procedures

11:50 The Importance of Courtroom Etiquette

15:02 Introducing Family Court Mastery

18:09 The Future of Family Court Mastery and Resources

About Cathy:

Cathy Eads is a 500 hour Certified Yoga Teacher, Yoga Therapist, Ayurvedic Wellness Coach, and founder of BLISS Yoga with Cathy. After navigating her own high-conflict divorce, she now helps professional women in midlife release stress, recover their power, and rebuild emotionally and physically using holistic tools that are simple, effective, and deeply compassionate.

Summary:

Divorce doesn’t just change your relationship status—it shakes your nervous system, rewires your identity, and often leaves your body holding the tension, grief, and exhaustion long after the paperwork is filed.

In this heartfelt episode, yoga therapist and stress resilience expert Cathy Eads shares how her 29-year marriage—and eventual high-conflict divorce—led her to create a safe, therapeutic space for other women to heal after separation.

You’ll hear how yoga, breath, and guided rest can help you release the pain you’ve been carrying, reclaim your sense of self, and rebuild a life that finally feels like yours.

Whether you’ve been divorced for 6 months or 6 years, this conversation is your reminder that you are not too late, too broken, or too far gone to begin again.

Takeaways:

• Why traditional therapy may not be enough to fully heal after divorce
  

• The hidden trauma stored in the body after years of “keeping the peace”
  

• How yoga, breath, and guided relaxation can soothe the nervous system and restore emotional steadiness
  

• The 3 most common blocks women face in midlife after divorce—and how to gently move through them
  

Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, Paulette Rigo and Megan Sherer discuss the importance of healing during and after divorce. They explore the role of holistic therapy, the significance of expressing emotions, and the connection between trauma and health. Megan shares her journey and insights on the six types of love, emphasizing the necessity of self-love as the foundation for all relationships. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding childhood wounds and the resources available for those navigating the challenges of divorce.

Takeaways:

• Healing is essential in the divorce process.
• Holistic therapy addresses the whole person, not just symptoms.
• Expressing emotions is crucial for mental and physical health.
• Trauma can manifest in various health issues.
• There are six types of love that are important to recognize.
• Self-love is the foundation for all other relationships.
• Understanding childhood wounds can help in healing.
• It's important to prioritize the relationship with oneself.
• Healing allows individuals to reclaim their true selves.
• Support and resources are available for those navigating divorce.

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About Andrea:

Andrea McGinty, Founder of 33000 dates

Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, Paulette Rigo discusses the complexities of dating after divorce with expert Andrea McGinty. They explore statistics on remarriage, the importance of being emotionally ready for dating, and the role of dating coaches. Andrea shares her personal journey and insights on navigating online dating platforms, choosing the right apps, and effective messaging strategies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and preparation in the dating process, especially for those over 50.

Takeaways:

• 85% of divorced people are typically remarried within five years.
• It's important to be emotionally ready before dating again.
• Your first few dates can serve as practice dates.
• A dating coach can provide accountability and guidance.
• Choosing the right dating platform is crucial for success.
• Messaging should be unique and engaging to stand out.
• Understanding what you want in a partner is key to dating.
• Life experience can be an asset in dating after divorce.
• Online dating has become more accepted and accessible.
• Taking a quiz can help assess your readiness for dating.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Better Divorce Podcast

01:52 The Journey into Dating After Divorce

04:20 Statistics on Remarriage and Dating

09:47 Understanding Readiness for Dating

15:01 The Role of a Dating Coach

22:15 Navigating Online Dating Platforms

28:18 Choosing the Right Dating Apps

35:13 Conclusion and Resources for Dating

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About Jodie:

Jodie Graham is a Divorce Coach, Mediator, Chartered Professional Accountant, University-Trained Coach, and Registered Collaborative Professional dedicated to helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity, confidence, and dignity. With nearly 30 years of financial expertise and firsthand experience going through her own divorce, Jodie combines professional skill with personal understanding to guide her clients through one of life’s most challenging transitions.

Jodie’s approach is practical, empowering, and tailored to each individual’s needs. She specializes in helping clients manage the emotional and financial complexities of divorce, avoid common mistakes, and create solutions that work for their unique situations. Whether it’s preparing for negotiations, making informed decisions, or planning for the future, Jodie’s insights and strategies ensure her clients feel supported every step of the way.

With a deep commitment to collaboration and positive outcomes, Jodie is on a mission to transform the divorce experience—turning what often feels like an ending into an opportunity for a new beginning.

Summary:

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, host Paulette Rigo interviews divorce expert Jodi Graham about the collaborative divorce process. They discuss the importance of understanding the collaborative approach, the role of neutrals, and how to find the right professionals to assist in the divorce journey. The conversation also covers the benefits of maintaining control over decisions, the time and cost comparisons between different divorce methods, and the challenges that may arise during the collaborative process. Listeners are encouraged to consider collaborative divorce as a viable option and to seek out the necessary resources and support.

Takeaways:

• Collaborative divorce can be less costly than traditional litigation.
• Finding collaboratively trained lawyers is essential for the process.
• Neutrals can help navigate financial and emotional aspects of divorce.
• The collaborative process allows for more control over outcomes.
• Time spent in collaborative divorce can vary based on willingness to negotiate.
• It's important to choose professionals who understand their roles in the divorce process.
• The emotional toll of divorce can be managed with the right support.
• Understanding the costs associated with different divorce methods is crucial.
• Communication and negotiation are key in collaborative divorce.
• Researching options and professionals can lead to better outcomes.

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Better Divorce Podcast

01:52 Jodi Graham's Journey and Expertise

04:58 Understanding the Emotional Landscape of Divorce

06:50 The Collaborative Divorce Process Explained

12:58 The Role of Neutrals in Collaborative Divorce

16:54 The Team Approach to Divorce

19:45 The Control Factor in Collaborative Divorce

22:55 Time and Cost Comparisons in Divorce Processes

25:52 Navigating Collaborative Divorce: Time and Cost

32:44 Challenges in the Collaborative Process

39:46 Choosing the Right Attorney

45:59 The Importance of Professional Support in Divorce

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Bio:

Ashley Milus is a trauma-informed somatic grief and life transition coach who helps people navigate significant losses and life changes, including the death of a loved one, divorce, chronic illness, and other major transitions. Inspired by her own journey through loss, Ashley specializes in guiding clients through their healing process with a compassionate and holistic approach. She helps people process their emotions, feel deeply supported, rediscover their sense of self, and move forward with renewed strength.

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Summary

In this episode of the Better Divorce Podcast, host Paulette Rigo speaks with Ashley Milus, a trauma-informed somatic grief and life transition coach. They discuss the complexities of grief, particularly in the context of divorce, and how somatic healing can help individuals process their emotions and experiences. Ashley shares her personal journey through loss and how it inspired her to help others navigate their own grief. The conversation delves into the methodology of somatic work, emphasizing the importance of the nervous system in healing and the need for a supportive environment. They conclude with key elements for rebuilding after divorce, including support, processing, and rebuilding oneself.

Takeaways

• Grief can manifest in various forms beyond death.
• Divorce involves multiple losses, not just the relationship.
• Somatic healing focuses on the body's experience of trauma.
• The nervous system plays a crucial role in emotional healing.
• Support systems are essential during the healing process.
• Self-support is vital for personal growth and recovery.
• Processing emotions is necessary for moving forward.
• Rebuilding after loss requires acknowledging past trauma.
• Healing is a journey that takes time and patience.
• No one should navigate grief and loss alone.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Better Divorce Podcast

01:57 Understanding Somatic Grief and Life Transitions

10:40 The Methodology of Somatic Healing

22:34 Transformative Experiences in Somatic Work

32:19 Key Elements for Rebuilding After Divorce

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