Wendy and Rob talk to Liz and Chelsea of Berkeley Alley Beer and BodyByBeer podcast. 

Berkeley Alley Beer can be found at https://thealleybrews.com/ and in Denver, CO. It is a proudly welcoming space so you should go check it out!

The Body by Beer podcast website https://www.bodybybeerpodcast.com/ has information about the podcast and the books we discussed (and the jerky related to the book).