Matt and Zac interview Gene Roncone. They talk about being the church in new areas, struggling through the great recession, and Zac’s aversion to poop. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With Gene – Better Pastors FB Group [email protected] Stuff Gene Mentioned – Highpoint Podfather Shure SM7B Heil PR40 AKG P220 Apogee All I Did Was Ask Leadership Challenge Leadership Sri Lanka ... Read More

Matt and Zac interview John Alarid. They talk about John’s journey from prison to ministry. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With John – Facebook Stuff John Mentioned – City Reach Springfield My Prison Became a Palace Logos Spirit Empowered Church Acts 2 Model Matthew 1 Corinthians Luke Bruce: Galatians Romans Interpreting the Parables Intro Music – Rockin’ Riff, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS ... Read More

Matt and Zac interview Preston Ulmer. They talk about leaving the faith, doubting, and church planting. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With Preston – Doubters Club Discover Church in the Highlands Stuff Preston Mentioned – Portmanteau Breaking Bad Breaking Bad Tour UIP Coaching Cluster Butler, AL Engel Scale Benefit of the Doubt The Great Divorce Hamilton Zoom Better Pastors Podcast Feedback ... Read More

Matt and Zac interview Joy Qualls. They talk about her new book God Forgive Us for Being Women, which should be read by women and not a women. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With Joy – Facebook.com/JoyQuallsPhD/ Stuff Joy Mentioned – Joy’s Book Joy’s Book Review Joy’s First Podcast Austin Channing Brown – Faith Angle Podcast Craig Keener Cheryl Bridges Johns ... Read More

Matt and Zac interview Aaron Alexander. They talk about the being a constant learner, being patient in ministry, and growing in observations about race relations. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With Aaron – Facebook Stuff Aaron Mentioned – Frisco RoughRiders Hope Fellowship When You Come Together SAGU Love Thy Neighbor The Naked Anabaptist Intro Music – Rockin’ Riff, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS ... Read More

Matt and Zac interview Rod Collver. They talk about hard times in Ministry, falling in a bomber in WWII and Denver. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With Rod – Facebook.com/rcollver Stuff Rod Mentioned – Open.church Circle Maker The Blessed Life Pickleball Intro Music – Rockin’ Riff, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS Outro Music – In Your Robotic Heart, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS

Matt and Zac interview Anh Johnson. They talk about Sandlot, Difficult People in Ministry, and Vietnamese Food. Sponsor – CEPNet.com Connect With Anh – Facebook Stuff Anh Mentioned – Like a Girl Lynden, WA Hillcrest Faithlife (Logos) Accordance Sam Vulnerable Pastor FEEDBACK Intro Music – Rockin’ Riff, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS Outro Music – In Your Robotic Heart, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS

Matt and Zac interview Rob Bennett. They talk about interim ministry, diapers, and life zones. Connect With Rob – Facebook Stuff Rob Mentioned People’s Church Northwest University Jeff Kirkland Making Room for Life YouVersion Bible App Mile IQ Hamilton – Book Hamilton – Play Recalibrate Your Church Intro Music – Rockin’ Riff, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS Outro Music- In Your Robotic ... Read More

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