In this conclusive episode at the end of our scheduled second season, I've set out to achieve 4 things.

If any of these segments are of greater interest to you than another, you can skip forward to these points in the broadcast (as follows) or simple sit back and let this culmination of Better World Leaders so far roll out in front of you.

Reviewing the stand-out moments to me in Season 2 - from 2min52

Reflecting on the key learnings for leaders and leadership - 8min19

Celebrating and expressing gratitude to the Better World Leaders community that has been gathered thus far - 17min30

Looking ahead and giving an outline of the future state for our next 2 seasons and the broadcasts that will come between now and the launch of the next main season - 21min22

Today we conclude the second season of our podcast, Better World Leaders, and this opening statement summarises our take on the collective wisdom of the 20 guests we've co-created conversations with in 2020.

In this reflective episode, we review the highlights of the 12 conversations with leaders who are all striving to make the world better as organisational executives, thought leaders, authors, experts, advocates and entrepreneurs.

Special thanks to all of this seasons' guests for devoting their time to share wisdom, insights and perspectives - Zoë Routh, Michael Bungay Stanier, Harvee Pene, Dr Adam Fraser, Andrew Hayim de Vries, Simon Carter, Leen Gorissen, Genna Onuchukwu, Brandon Srot, Kirstin Hunter, Kevin Tan and Dr Tom Alan-Livernois.

We hope have benefited from the time and find some space you have made to engage with the content we've created over the course of this year in Better World Leaders, or that you will soon if you've not had a chance to do so as yet.

Reviewing the stand-out moments and conversations in my view from the second season;

•There are so many ways to lead in order to make the world better

•To lead is to step into the opportunity to create positive change, and to pick up the baton of obligation to be a custodian of change that for sustainable good moving towards making our world better

•Highlights to me as host were the conversations with Leen Gorissen on Natural Intelligence, Michael Bungay Stanier on curiosity, power & authority and both Harvee Pene and Kevin Tan on the connection between purpose and profit.

Reflecting on the key learnings and themes that have emerged and considering the implications of these for leadership:

•Theme of purpose, with reflective moments in the conversations with Kirstin Hunter, Genna Onuchukwu, Kevin Tan, Harvee Pene and Dr Tom Alan-Livernois.

•Power & authority, with reflective moments in the conversations with Michael Bungay Stanier, Brandon Srot and Andrew Hayim de Vries.

•Vital leadership traits to develop and lean into - curiosity, humility & tolerance

•Critical leadership skills to learn and refine - adaptability, resilience, trust building and sitting with discomfort

Celebration and gratitude;

I've been enthralled, delighted and deeply gladdened to see the Better World Leaders message spread so quickly, and be engaged with around the globe.

As we broadcast this episode, we've had listeners tune in from a wide array of countries including Australia, New Zealand, the USA, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Ireland, Switzerland, the Netherlands, Lithuania, Poland, India, Singapore, Indonesia, China, Ghana, South Africa and Nigeria and Peru.

Thank you to each and every one of you who has given your time and attention to the content we've created - we hope you have enjoyed and benefited from what you have learned from the inspiring leaders we have brought to you.

In this conversation we welcome the leader of 4i's business in the USA, Dr. Tom Alan-Livernois. I am honoured to be able to call Tom a dear friend, as well as a colleague and business partner. His wisdom, experience and qualifications are vast, deep and contemporarily relevant in so many ways. I'm delighted to be sharing this conversation with you.

Dr. Tom's career has spanned extensive experience in marketing, advertising, leadership and developing leaders. His early career was primarily focused on bringing new services and products to markets, working across numerous sectors and industries bringing 'first in market' offers to life. Having heard the call of purpose and pivoted to become a Leadership Educator, he first gained a Master's in Digital Marketing, then a Master's in Organisational Leadership and most recently a Doctorate in Organizational Leadership with an emphasis on development. His field of expertise in this are was focused on Virtual Work and Organisational Stress. Today, Dr. Tom leads our business in the USA and applies his expertise with our clients across the globe.

Dr. Tom is a deeply compassionate student of the human condition and of the relationship between leadership and both human and organisational performance. His faculty for understanding causal Dr.ivers of behaviour and the specific developmental interventions required to enhance performance and outcomes lead him to be sought out by senior Executives and high performing organisations. He continues to break new ground in organizational outcomes and positive impact in the world.

This conversation covers many elements of our work and our shared philosophy of leadership, as well as taking deep dives into several crucial areas of leadership today. If you are seeking to understand the definitive leadership traits of humility, tolerance and respect, why they are vital for successful leadership now and in the future, this conversation is worth making time for.

If you are tight for time and want to tune in directly to the leadership segment, you can scroll forward to the 40-minute mark. I do highly recommend the whole conversation to fully appreciate Dr. Tom's background and perspective.

Key out-takes from this episode;

- We are often taught "this is the way it has to be". Learn to question "is it?"

- You have to name your part, what role you are playing in a system or context.

- Impatience is the most selfish act one can perform

- Humility is simply an admission that you're human. That you don't know everything, you can provide grace to somebody else and that you don't have to be the centre of attention.

- A key tenant of servant leadership is altruism. Altruism is not simply about being and doing good but comes from evolutionary psychology of a member of the group being able to mediate anger or aggression to bring the group together to work towards a common goal.

- That the greatest leaders are able to inspire people to work towards a shared vision is commonly accepted. What must be appreciated is that the only way we can inspire somebody is to have developed trust, have mutual respect for each other, as well as understand what mutual dependencies you have for each other, our unspoken contract.

(Specific quote for QT The only way to inspire somebody is by building trust with mutual respect and appreciation for mutual dependence)

- Do you truly understand why you want to be a leader?

- What is successful leadership to you? Involves having a relationship with people. If you do reach successful leadership without having a relationship with people, it's likely to be short-lived.

- To develop yourself and others as leaders, seek out learning that's simple, practical and immediate in application.

- What we want to understan...

This conversation is as much a journey, as it is a movement towards a destination. The destination is an entrepreneurial endeavour that provides proof that no matter what the business model, how simple or complex, unique or commoditised, that engraining purpose firmly at the core of our organisation will bring greater outcomes. And since this one is a for profit business - the proof is that profit follows purpose.

This is a fascinating discussion with entrepreneur Kevin Tan, who shares his journey from a promising career in global consulting firm Accenture, on a path of discovering purpose through field work with World Vision, to co-founding a 'for purpose' organisation that delivers improved outcomes for both staff and customers in the contract cleaning industry.

Kevin's perspectives about life, service, purpose and creating meaningful work and for purpose profit are as inspirational and they are informative.

If you are seeking your purpose, and how to apply it in your work, this conversation may well be for you.

Key out-takes from this episode;

- Kevin found that bringing a sense of devotion and purpose to work has led to much greater staff engagement. Instead of talking about their work experience, staff now talk about their purpose experience.

- Work should go beyond producing a great service, it can be about having an even greater impact in the world.

- Living their purpose as a company by showing their customers that they really cared about them led to a huge increase in retention (up to 97%), in an industry that typically has very low retention rates across contracts.

- When you think about purpose as a concept is such a big idea, but when you break it down to an individual level, it's really about living the attributes of someone you'd like to hang out with.

- Key themes of Kevin's approach to leadership - be generous, be faithful and do what you'll say you'll do. Do this, and you'll attract good business, good contracts and good staff.

- The collective consciousness of the business community is increasing around the benefits of following purposeful models of operating.

- If we can get just 6% of small and medium sized businesses to embrace a new way of operating, we'll see a tipping point in cultural change for the good.

- You don't need to be CEO to make the brave calls and follow your moral compass

- Taking personal responsibility is vital and key to change the way we run our businesses. Everyone can take this personal responsibility for how they lead.

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Get in touch with Kevin via any of these points of contact;

Kevin's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-tan-241518b/

Kevin's business: www.cleanasyougo.com.au

As always, great thanks and appreciation to the team who contributed to bringing Better World Leaders to you;

To Brendan Ward for production of all audio recordings and composition and performance of original music throughout each episode.

To Cooper and the team at RadioHub studios for technical support and creative guidance during the episodes that are recorded face-to-face. You can find out about Radio Hub's services here - https://www.radiohub.com.au/

To NokNok Studios for website design, hosting and advice. Find out about NokNok's awesome services here - https://www.facebook.com/NOKNOKstudios/

To Cirasa Design f...

Every once in a while you come across a corporate leader who really makes you sit up and pay attention. Kirstin Hunter was one such example for me. And not because of a prestigious appointment, or a meteoric rise to prominence or a stellar investor presentation. I paid attention because of bravery, action in alignment with purpose and living ones' values.

I became aware of the organisation she is Managing Director of, Future Super, shortly before Kirstin came into view. Future Super stands out as a prominent advocate, if not activist, in for-purpose, impact-driven investment. Kirstin stands out for not just walking the walk, but shouting the talk of what they do and why they do what they do.

Don't get me wrong, typically you would find me using very different language to describe my emotions around the financial services and funds management industry, but this woman, this leader and this organisation are worthy of a different set of adjectives and verbs. As such, Kirstin's mantra is most appropriate - deeds over words.

Kirstin's journey from lawyer to global management consultant to leading a purpose-led funds management company runs in defiance of the received wisdom of corporate careers, as does the approve the organisation she leads takes to investment - leading to a clean sweep of the highest performing funds in recent Australian industry results.

This is a powerful conversation that proves two significant points - that everyone who has any retirement savings of any kind can apply them to do good and create the world we want to see. And that this sector, one that rightly attracts more ire and criticism than praise, has an enormous opportunity to follow Kirstin and Future Super's lead and become a major force for good. The Australian retirement investment industry is the 4th largest investment pool in the world, currently valued at over $2.7trillion AUD. Imagine the projects that could fund. The full transition to renewable energy for a start, which would require just 7.7% of total funds invested by the Australian superannuation industry.

Key out-takes from this episode;

- Financial services is not an industry that you'd typically associate with strongly purpose-orientated people - but perhaps it will be soon!

- Future Super's performance proves that it is not only possible, but beneficial to think about both purpose and profit in investing.

- This success is not just about the positive return to members from the funds managed, it's about inspiring positive change in the industry to compound a greater force for good.

- Let's put that into context. Research cited by Kirstin indicates that to fully transition Australia to renewable energy would require the investment of just 7.7% of the funds currently invested by Australian retirement funds.

- The received wisdom in the investment industry in Australia is that you can't generate consistent member returns without investing in fossil fuels. Well, it turns out you can.

- In fact, during times of volatility, ethical funds have significantly out-performed conventionally invested funds.

- Being purpose orientated cannot just be marketing spin, not just the words on the wall, it must be reflected in all your interactions with all of your stakeholders.

- One of Future Super's philosophies is that they invest by doing.

- However, let's not scare anyone off here. You don't have to change the way you work to lead with purpose. All of us have the opportunity to bring purpose into our daily lives.

- Anyone can ask a question of their organisation around purpose, and there's a lot of power in that. Ask what it would mean if your organisation really meant what they say they mean. Ask who is going to judge us against what we say around purpose.

- Sim...

We've have been fortunately to have several deeply moving conversations with Brandon about the role of leaders over the years, and I'm very glad to have been able to create another one here to share with you all.

Brandon was born and raised in Apartheid South Africa, and we begin our conversation recounting salient moments of his upbringing which framed his views of the world, viscerally confronting inequality of opportunity, access to resources and education that need not always constrain the realisation of human potential. From these early beginnings, he has devoted himself to the development of human potential and connection.

His own leadership journey has taken him through tenures in Not-for-Profit, as a Youth Councillor for the City of Cape Town, and as the Australian Chair for a Global Youth Organisation.

He now practices as a psycho-therapist, leadership facilitator and educator - including as a lecturer in Adaptive Leadership. He works with leaders to face the complex challenges they encounter to which there are no set-out, straightforward solutions. As such, we - as humans - are called on to adapt and adjust; to reconfigure our values, loyalties, perceptions and ways of doing things. This requires us to relate and interact with each other in new ways. For Brandon, this is part of leadership. He works with people to develop their relational leadership capacities so that we can meet each other and work with each other in new ways.

Key out-takes from this episode;

- Seeking to develop human potential and connection are the bedrock of the kind of leadership we need today

- So much of the world is crying out for a new kind of leadership

- This change needs to happen rapidly and radically

- That in the world of Adaptive Leadership, leadership is not a noun, it is a verb. It is something we do, and as such is available to us all.

- In Adaptive Leadership we do not refer to leaders, only leadership

- Adaptive Leadership is a change management process. We must ask ourselves what is going to need to occur to cause us to emerge in a different form to the one we entered in.

- We can get seduced by authority in so many different ways.

- Pay attention to the authority relationships in your life

Resources mentioned in this episode

Read - Leadership on the Line, by Marty Linsky and Ronald Heifetz

Get in touch with Brandon via any of these points of contact;

My website - www.brandonsrot.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonsrot/

Feel free to call or email and Brandon would love to chat, perhaps even have a virtual coffee

As always, great thanks and appreciation to the team who contributed to bringing Better World Leaders to you;

To Brendan Ward for production of all audio recordings and composition and performance of original music throughout each episode.

To Cooper and the team at RadioHub studios for technical support and creative guidance during the episodes that are recorded face-to-face. You can find out about Radio Hub's services here - https://www.radiohub.com.au/

To NokNok Studios for website design, hosting and advice. Find out about NokNok's awesome services here - https://www.facebook.com/NOKNOKstudios/

To Cirasa Design for logo and site graphics - Find our about Cirasa's inspiring work here

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This is one of the fastest moving, punchiest and broadest conversations we've had on

Better World Leaders thus far, one in which we cover a lot of ground and an array of topics, including acting to align passion with purpose, the role of inquiry in leadership - that leaders ask and listen first and then act, without fear of failure. The later point they do because they accept that failure is a step along the road to learning and growth.

A little about Genna...born and raised in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney, Australia, she is 1 of 4 daughters and has by her own words been extremely privileged her entire life. Struggling academically in High School she wanted to drop out, however her parents encouraged her to stay until she Graduated High School. The final two years were the best years of her life as she took on various leadership roles. She has now completed two university degrees, Bachelor of Nursing and a Bachelor of Arts in International Aid and Development and Sustainable Development.

Inspired by World Vision adverts to confront her privilege and consider how she could make a greater contribution, she approached major charities and NGOs when graduating high school but found little interest in her capability. This frustrated her that her passion and purpose were so readily rebutted, so she shifted into action, travelling to Africa and learning first-hand how to directly interact with, learn from, and offer assistance to communities in need.

In the years ahead she founded her own charity - Gennarosity Abroad - which transforms the lives of women and children in Kenya operating a Kindergarten & women's Training Centre and supporting an orphanage and maternity clinic, as well as educating youth in Australia of global injustices (e.g. taken a group of 10 students to Kenya in 2018) The core message is one of inspiring others that as one person, they have the ability to change the lives of others.

Key out-takes from this episode;

- Instead of letting people dictate how you live your life, take control and have impact on the ground.

- Not to tell communities what they need, ask them to inform you of what their problems are, and develop solutions together.

- That one of the biggest problems of leadership roles is power, and the inherent danger of having too much power.

- Humility, curiosity and respect can balance power.

- That we over-emphasis agreement as a requirement to cooperate. We don't need to agree 100% to work together towards a shared vision or outcome.

- That failure is something we need to embrace.

- Leadership is about doing. Fear of failure is the reason many people don't do.

- Education is not just about grades. That much of what good leaders need is not what is graded in our current education system.

- That in this sense we may we setting kids up to fail by only focusing on the grade outcome and not the skills acquired along the way.

Get in touch with Genna via any of these points of contact;

The website Gennarosity Abroad (www.gennarosityabroad.org)

email Genna at [email protected]

or call (yes, call!) on +61400224429. On Genna's behalf we politely request an sms in advance to introduce yourself and your enquiry.

As always, great thanks and appreciation to the team who contributed to bringing Better World Leaders to you;

To Brendan Ward for production of all audio recordings and composition and performance of original music throughout each episode.

To Cooper and the team at RadioHub studios for technical support and creative guidance during the episodes that are recorde...

Of the conversations we've had so far on Better World Leaders, this is the one that most fills me with hope. Hope that there is another way for us to exist, grow, succeed and live virtuously in a way that leads to prosperity, vitality and opportunity for far more of the world. And vitally, that we do all of this in a way that benefits our world, rather than compromises it.

This is the conversation with Leen Gorissen about natural intelligence. That by studying natural systems design, natural modes of sharing and distributing resources we as leaders can learn another way to thrive. By understanding what to some is intuitive, but of which all can be informed, how nature teaches us to connect, collaborate and operate collectively.

Leen is the Author of 'Natural Intelligence', as fixating and brilliant a read as it is a practical manual for any organisation or leader seeing to engage with more intuitive, evolutionary and biologically orientated ways of leading.

This is my favourite book of the year, but don't just take it from me - here is what the former EU Commissioner of the Environment, Janez Potocnik, said about the book on NI:

"The circular bio-based economy is the oldest concept on the earth. Nothing is lost and everything has a purpose. It makes sense to embrace it and behave accordingly. In essence there is only one question we have to answer: Do we agree that we humans are part of the nature too? Natural Intelligence provides a very convincing, clear and un-disputable answer."

As this conversation flows through a number of sections, I'm adding a couple of suggested short-cuts for those who are interested in this subject but may wish to sample some of the recommendations before listening to the entire conversation.

You may wish to skip ahead to the allocated time marks if these topics are of interest to you, see below;

Key out-takes from this episode;

- Bottom up movements help actually realise systemic change

- The land can be our teacher, as it was for Leen

- Are our organisations becoming monoculture of thought? If so, be aware that monocultures of crop and monocultures of thought are very vulnerable when it comes to disruption and change (Tune in from 21min39)

- Diversity keeps the door open to new innovations, and is the door of opportunity for new solutions (Tune in from 23min40)

- Can we 're-nature' human nature, to move beyond our current focus on industrial logic?

- How can we re-arrange our businesses to leave the world better off as we succeed in doing our work?

- Organisations need to invest in the health of others to ensure the health of their own. Example of VISA.

- If we can understand biology we can unlock the hidden potential of systems and organisations.

- Leaders must begin this process by waking themselves up. Ask what is your true essence and what is the role you are here to play? How do your specific talents meet the needs of the world? (Tune in from 54min56)

- Have the courage to go for it and change what needs to be changed.

Get in touch with Leen via any of these points of contact;

LI - https://www.linkedin.com/in/leen-gorissen-86aa508/

Website - https://www.studiotransitio.com/

Additional resources mentioned in our conversation.

- Leen's book here - https://www.naturalintelligence.info/

- VISA Founder's book - https://www.amazon.com/One-M...

Welcome to the half-way point of Season 2 of Better World Leaders.

In this episode we combine a brief reflective review of the season so far with a sneak peak ahead at some of the conversations that lie ahead in the 6 episodes to come before we each the conclusion of this second series of dialogues with leaders who are striving to make the world better.

Our intention in this episode is two fold.

Firstly, to provide any of you that are new to the podcast audience with a chance to quickly get an overview of which areas we have covered, and interpret which of these fabulous conversations might be of most interest, maximal benefit to your journey - or simply the ideal starting point to enter our community via the conversatisons with;

Zoë Routh - How to chose your leadership archetype

Michael Bungay Stanier - Why Curiosity is a vital leadership behaviour

Harvee Pene - How purpose powers profit

Dr Adam Fraser - How to sit with discomfort and guide others through it

Andrew Hayim de Vries - Pivoting from Creator to Inventor

Simon Carter - How to navigate digitalisation and engage trust as a competitive advantage

Secondly, to give you an opportunity to get ahead and engage your thoughts and intentions with those of several of the incredible guests we've been honoured to create conversations in the second half of this season. They include an Natural Intelligence researcher, a nurse with a charitable endeavour that's opened her eyes to impact and passion beyond the traditional route of philanthropy, a South-African Adaptive Leadership expert and the Managing Director of a Positive-Impact Fund Management company.

I've greatly enjoyed all of these interactions as we've created them, and have learnt something about leadership that I've been able to apply immediately to my work both with my team and our clients at 4iLeadership. I very much look forward to sharing them all with you.

So for now, soak up the brief insights provided here, enjoy the look back at any of the conversations you've not engaged with as yet in this season, and keep on doing what I have no doubt in your own way you are doing, or at least beginning - leading to build a better world.

As always, great thanks and appreciation to the team who contributed to bringing Better World Leaders to you;

To Brendan Ward for production of all audio recordings and composition and performance of original music throughout each episode.

To Cooper and the team at RadioHub studios for technical support and creative guidance during the episodes that are recorded face-to-face. You can find out about Radio Hub's services here - https://www.radiohub.com.au/

To NokNok Studios for website design, hosting and advice. Find out about NokNok's awesome services here - https://www.facebook.com/NOKNOKstudios/

To Cirasa Design for logo and site graphics - Find our about Cirasa's inspiring work here

You'll find audio and video recordings for this episode, as well as links to any specific recommendations or related resources mentioned today in the podcast area of 4ileadership.com/insights

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Our conversation in this episode with sustainability expert Simon Carter, the MD of Morphosis and chair of the Sustainable Digitalisation Project (SDP).

Simon originally heralds from New Zealand, and as the son of an oceanographer was introduced early on to the appreciation of complex systems in nature and our interaction with and impact on them. His professional journey took him into a focus on the built environment as an architect, and these interests combined with a specialism in sustainability in both buildings and property markets. More recently he has developed expertise in 'sustainable digitisation', an endeavour to address to rampant momentum to deploy digital technology to buildings and cities; setting an agenda to ensure it is done responsibly, ethically and sustainably.

Simon is leading an industry, government and academia collaboration of sustainability, digital technology and social change leaders, the Sustainable Digitalisation Project, to establish this in Australia.

The main pillars of this conversation are the influence and impact on our lives at every level of digital platforms and the shift towards digitising so many of our environments, interactions and endeavours. The critical and often decisive role of trust in enabling the effective deployment and use of these platforms, and how risk issues such as privacy, access to data and 3rd party use of data are compounding the further along this journey we go. How do leaders engage with this topic? What are the main mechanisms for managing risk in the context of digitisation and how can leaders make decisions and take action to ensure their organisation is engaging with their digitisation processes responsibly, ethically and sustainably. To answer these questions, listen on!

Key out-takes from this episode;

- Humankind is crossing a threshold into a highly digitised future.

- This is a step-change in the evolution of our species that needs to be stewarded very carefully.

- Digitisation offers tremendous benefits, many of which we are aware of but also presents severe risks and significant, complex and novel challenges.

- One of the problems we face is a technology-driven mindset, with an expectation that any problem can be solved by technology - that any problem can be algorithmically solved.

- Accept that trust is the oil that lubricates the digitised world. Consider what you are doing as a leader, and what your organisation is doing to measure and earn trust.

- Organisations, cities and governments that focus on trust will out-compete over time.

- Leaders & organisations must question their relationship to technology and put technology in its place as a tool.

- This practice must occur both top-down and bottom-up, being led and delivered by leaders at all levels of organisations.

Get in touch with Simon via any of these points of contact;

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/simoncarterprofile/

Morphosis - http://www.morphosis.com.au/connect

Additional resources mentioned in our conversation.

- The Sustainable Digitalisation Project (SDP) - www.sdp.digital

- Centre for Responsible Technology www.centreforresponsibletechnology.org.au

- Human Rights and Technology, Human Rights Commission https://tech.humanrights.gov.au

- Morphosis publication, Crossing the Threshold - a primer for sustainable digitalisation real estat...

Welcome to Episode 15 of Better World Leaders, our wonderful exploration of the great potential of human creativity to overcome significant obstacles, harness intuition and follow purpose to make a better world for all. In this fascinating conversation we are joined by Andrew Hayim de Vries, founder and inventor of the Subpod composting system.

Andrew is an ecologically focused Australian artist and designer, with a host of professional works spanning more than 35 years. He is a creator, an inventor, and a deeply resilient and persistent figure. He is driven by a passion for recycling and up-cycling, composting and vermiculture. The health of the environment calls for the need for re-education and hands-on participation, in which he plays his part.

Andrew founded Compost Central Byron Bay as an education, design and development facility to cultivate successful composting. There equip people with the knowledge and confidence to convert organic waste into healthy soil or food production.

Over the past years Andrew has been perfecting the 'Subpod' in-ground composting system, which now has a patent pending and is a run-away success following it's kickstarter launch. When installed, the module (whether in family home, schools, cafes, prisons, refugee and displacement centers, mining towns and other businesses) takes organic kitchen waste and converts it into healthy soil and the means to feed organics food to rural and urban populated communities.

Key messages from this episode;

- That we need to allow more room for latitude in personal development and career paths, and this latitude will lead to the creation of pathways for discovery, creativity and invention.

- If you want to make things better, focus on the weakest link in any system.

- Consider what you can do to build, create and share by finding those who feel the same way you do about the world

- If you want to make the world better, start with the internal discovery of purpose

- Ask yourself, can you get to a point of knowing what you know, and profoundly acknowledging what you don't know?

- If you can do this, along with your team - this is the genesis of high performance teams, when everyone owns what they know and what they don't.

Get in touch with Andrew via any of these points of contact;

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayimdevries/

https://www.hayimdevries.com/contact

Additional resources mentioned in our conversation.

- Andrew's projects https://www.hayimdevries.com/Projects

- Subpod's main site

Follow Subpod and Compost Central on Instagram here - https://www.instagram.com/thesubpod/?hl=en

As always, great thanks and appreciation to the team who contributed to bringing Better World Leaders to you;

To Brendan Ward for production of all audio recordings and composition and performance of original music throughout each episode.

To Cooper and the team at RadioHub studios for technical support and creative guidance during the episodes that are recorded face-to-face. You can find out about Radio Hub's services here - https://www.radiohub.com.au/

To NokNok Studios for website design, hosting and advice. Find out about NokNok's awesome services