In this episode of #BeyondBarriers, we sit down for a real, #unfilteredconversation  about leaving the white power movement & coming from two very different paths.

We read excerpts from our books, reflect on what it took to face our pasts, and talk about the weight that comes with telling the #truth out loud. Writing these stories wasn’t easy. Living them was harder.

This conversation goes beyond headlines and assumptions. It’s about #accountability, #identity, #healing, and what it actually looks like to walk away from something that once defined your life.

 #WalkingAwayFromHate #FromHateToHumanity #redemptionstory #leadership #breakingfree  #transformation  #truestory  

📘 Jeff Schoep’s book: American Nazi: From Hate to Humanity
Available now — a raw, honest account of transformation, consequences, and rebuilding after extremism. 👉 Buy here: https://jeffschoep.com/buy-book/

📖 Jenn Kreis’s forthcoming book: Exploited
A powerful story of survival, strength, and overcoming manipulation and abuse.
👉 Pre-Order Here: https://jenniferkreis.gumroad.com/l/EXPLOITED



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Episode 29 of Beyond Barriers Podcast featuring TEDx Speaker and host of The Follow-Up Question Podcast, Michael Ashford. Michael Ashford (https://michaelashford.com) is the Director of Marketing at a Denver-based software company, The Receptionist, as well as a podcaster and independent journalist. Michael has conducted thousands of interviews over the last two decades in his time as a journalist, marketer, and podcaster, and as the host of The Follow-Up Question podcast, Michael explores what it means to have curious conversations that bring us together rather than divide us. He has won numerous awards for his reporting and storytelling as a journalist, he is a two-time TEDx speaker, and his work across various platforms has been featured in publications like Men's Health Magazine and Podcast Magazine.
The Follow-Up Question podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-follow-up-question/id1524211779
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Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an inspirational public speaker helping to educate communities and policy makers on how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com
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Acacia Dietz is the Managing Director of Beyond Barriers, co-hosts #BeyondBarriersPodcast, the host of Coffee & Conversation Podcast and owner of Underground Media Productions. Before working with Beyond Barriers she was once the propagandist and a multimedia content creator for the National Socialist Movement (NSM). Today she works with Beyond Barriers helping to counter and prevent violent extremism by creating multimedia content such as counter-narrative videos and podcasts. She is also a public speaker on women in extremism and disengagement. (https://beyondbarriersusa.org/team/di...)
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Jeff Schoep & Acacia Dietz interview Dr. Criag McCann discussing the controversy over his recent article "Beware the Anti-Fascists, for they have become what they oppose." (https://beyondbarriersusa.org/beware-the-anti-fascists-for-they-have-become-what-they-oppose/) and the importance of challenging all forms of political violence regardless of the ideological motivation. Dr Craig McCann is an independent specialist adviser and researcher. As the Director of S.P.E.C.T.R.U.M. (Strategic Preventative Expertise to Counter Terrorism Risks using Upstream Measures) Universal Ltd. he provides consultative services for domestic clients and international development programmes with an emphasis on preventative counter terrorism strategy and delivery. He also writes, advises, lectures and provides commentary on the U.K. Prevent strategy, de-radicalisation / disengagement programming, online approaches to counter terrorism and responses to right wing extremism. Dr McCann holds a Law Degree and an MA in Criminology from the University of Kent at Canterbury. At the same university he completed his PhD which explored how the U.K. Prevent Strategy has been applied to right wing extremism since 2011. He subsequently converted this thesis into a book titled “The Prevent Strategy and Right-Wing Extremism: A Case Study of the English Defence League” which has been published as part of the Routledge Extremism and Democracy range. (https://www.routledge.com/The-Prevent-Strategy-and-Right-wing-Extremism-A-Case-Study-of-the-English/McCann/p/book/9781138320673) In this episode we discuss Dr McCann's article and more.


Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an inspirational public speaker helping to educate communities and policy makers on how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com

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Beyond Barriers is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization committed to a new approach of countering and preventing extremism. For more information on Beyond Barriers: https://beyondbarriersusa.org
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Acacia Dietz is the Managing Director of Beyond Barriers (https://beyondbarriersusa.org/team/directors/acacia-dietz) follow Acacia on Twitter and Instagram: @SilencedMedia

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For more information on PEACE and ATAP please visit:
PEACE: https://communityandpolice.com
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ATAP Hall Monitor: https://ataphallmonitor.com

Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an International Extremism Consultant helping to educate communities and policy makers on the threat of white supremacy and how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com

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Beyond Barriers is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization committed to a new approach of countering and preventing extremism. For more information on Beyond Barriers: https://beyondbarriersusa.org
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Beyond Barriers Podcast is dedicated to dialogue — to honest conversations about growth, leadership, resilience, and the human capacity for change. Through real stories and unfiltered discussion, Beyond Barriers challenges assumptions and creates space for understanding, healing, and meaningful transformation.

For the past two decades Tamara Meyer, child of German Jewish Holocaust survivors has been honoring her family legacy by teaching and using the lessons of the Holocaust to promote dialogue and reconciliation and do her part to 'Tikkun ha Olam' repair the world. This special episode Jeff Schoep and Acacia Dietz will discuss these things and more!

Parents For Peace: https://www.parents4peace.org/
https://jewishremembranceweekgoerlitz2021.com/
https://one-by-one.org/dialogue-group

Photo Credits: Totschek/Meyer family archive and Tamara Meyer
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Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an International Extremism Consultant helping to educate communities and policy makers on the threat of white supremacy and how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com https://linktr.ee/jeffschoep

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Beyond Barriers Podcast is dedicated to dialogue — to honest conversations about growth, leadership, resilience, and the human capacity for change. Through real stories and unfiltered discussion, Beyond Barriers challenges assumptions and creates space for understanding, healing, and meaningful transformation.

Dr. Alon Milwicki joins Jeff Schoep and Acacia Dietz in this latest episode of #BeyondBarriersPodcast. Dr. Alon Milwicki earned his doctorate from American University studying the origins and proliferation of white supremacy with a specific focus on theological justifications for neo-Nazism in America. He is currently a research fellow at the American Counter Terrorism and Resilience institute and a history professor at Texas A&M University.

For more information or to contact Dr. Milwicki: [email protected]

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Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an International Extremism Consultant helping to educate communities and policy makers on the threat of white supremacy and how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. Follow Jeff Schoep on Twitter: @SchoepJeff



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Beyond Barriers Podcast is dedicated to dialogue — to honest conversations about growth, leadership, resilience, and the human capacity for change. Through real stories and unfiltered discussion, Beyond Barriers challenges assumptions and creates space for understanding, healing, and meaningful transformation.

As a tribute to Yom Kippur, Acacia Dietz & Jeff Schoep interview Josh Stepakoff a childhood survivor of the 1999 North Valley Jewish Community Center mass shooting. Josh was shot twice in the horrific attack at age 6. Today, Josh is a courageous activist who speaks out and warns about the repercussions of gun violence, hate, & anti-semitism. We discuss the toll of dehumanization, & what we can all do to make the world a little better. For more information on Women Against Gun Violence visit: https://www.wagv.org
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Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an International Extremism Consultant helping to educate communities and policy makers on the threat of white supremacy and how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. https://jeffschoep.com Follow Jeff Schoep on Twitter: @SchoepJeff
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Beyond Barriers Podcast is dedicated to dialogue — to honest conversations about growth, leadership, resilience, and the human capacity for change. Through real stories and unfiltered discussion, Beyond Barriers challenges assumptions and creates space for understanding, healing, and meaningful transformation.

In this Beyond Barriers exclusive, Jeff Schoep and Acacia Dietz speak with Shireen Qudosi about her organization The Foundation for Human Belonging, along with subjects of Afghanistan and extremism. Shireen is a writer and speaker on faith, identity, and belonging. In 2021, she created The Foundation for Human Belonging, a 501(c)(3) that looks at the arc of human belonging to build alternative frameworks challenging radicalization, polarity, and extremism.

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Jeff Schoep is the Founder of Beyond Barriers. From 1994 until early 2019, Jeff Schoep was the leader of the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States, the National Socialist Movement (NSM). In March 2019 he became the highest profile former white nationalist to ever walk away from far-right extremism in the USA. Since then, Jeff has been an outspoken advocate against the ideology that he had been part of for 27 years, making him uniquely qualified to understand extremism and extremist ideologies. Jeff now works as an International Extremism Consultant helping to educate communities and policy makers on the threat of white supremacy and how to effectively counter and prevent violent extremism. Follow Jeff Schoep on Twitter: @SchoepJeff

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Special Guest Phoebe J Rose joins this episode of Beyond Barriers Podcast. Phoebe is a transgendered female and was also part of the EDL (English Defense League) for about 5yrs. Phoebe left the EDL back in 2020 and now strives to educate and to bring others together. Her mission now: Peace & Reconciliation.


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Mohamed Ahmed is the creator and founder of Average Mohamed, a counter ideology non-profit organization promoting Peace, Democracy & Anti-Extremism. His life's mission is to promote peace and he advocates that ideas make the world go around. Join us in this incredible episode where we talk to Mohamed about the work he does to counter extremist ideas.
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