In this episode of Beyond Business, Josh sits down with Tom Bodell, founder of Elevation Station, to explore what really happens when you strip away job titles, corporate safety nets, and excuses.

Tom shares how working for yourself exposes the parts of your personality you can hide in corporate life — and why emotional intelligence, self-honesty, and purpose are non-negotiable if you want to grow as a professional and a human being.

They discuss:

• Why personal development starts with managing yourself
• Emotional intelligence as a learned skill, not a buzzword
• How trainers and leaders should take responsibility for attention
• The danger of ego-driven “self-help” advice
• Purpose, identity, and asking better questions
• Why people can’t be “fixed” — only helped, if they want it

This is a long-form, honest conversation about purpose over tactics, growth over performance, and why becoming the right person matters more than chasing the next system.