Beyond Business

Beyond Business #22 Why Emotional Intelligence Is the Missing Operating System at Work


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In this episode of Beyond Business, Josh sits down with Davide Pagnotta, CEO of Wise Humanity and creator of Hubie, an AI-powered emotional intelligence coach for individuals and teams.

Davide’s journey spans physics, corporate leadership, company collapse, and ultimately building a platform designed to solve one of the biggest silent problems in modern work: emotional friction.

We unpack:

  • Why companies fail when people don’t feel safe asking for help
  • How workplace culture shapes performance more than strategy
  • The difference between individual failure and system failure
  • Why emotional intelligence isn’t “soft” — it’s structural
  • How micro-habits create lasting behavioral change
  • And why everyone is doing the best they can with the tools they have

Davide also shares the personal story that shaped his philosophy — from growing up with zero emotional filters to developing radical empathy as a leadership superpower.

If you’re a founder, leader, or operator who wants better performance without burning people out, this conversation will rewire how you think about work, teams, and yourself.

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