For the final installment of Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey speaks with Rick Perry, former Governor of Texas and U.S. Energy Secretary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

For the final installment of Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey speaks with Rick Perry, former Governor of Texas and U.S. Energy Secretary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For the final installment of Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey speaks with Rick Perry, former Governor of Texas and U.S. Energy Secretary. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices" rel="noopener noreferrer">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Beyond Energy Talking Points

Beyond Talking Points Season 2: Abby McCloskey and her guests examine the first 100 days of President Trump’s second term — what America was promised and what we’re getting.

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Beyond Energy Talking Points

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