For the final installment of Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey speaks with Rick Perry, former Governor of Texas and U.S. Energy Secretary.

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This week on Beyond Talking Points, host Abby McCloskey talks with Pia Orrenius, a labor economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, about the effects of migration and deportations on the American economy, workforce and culture.

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Host Abby McCloskey speaks with Esau McCaulley about the cultural and religious narrative Americans tell ourselves.

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Is Elon Musk's chainsaw getting government spending back under control? This week, Beyond Talking Points host Abby McCloskey talks with Jessica Riedl, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

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Host Abby McCloskey talks with Emily Oster, author and CEO of ParentData, about President Trump's health and family policies.

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Season 2 of Beyond Talking Points: An American Middle Podcast kicks off with an episode about the economy. Host Abby McCloskey talks with Doug Holtz Eakin of the American Action Forum and former director of the Congressional Budget Office about tariffs, taxes and the Trump economy.

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Host Abby McCloskey interviews Yuval Levin, political analyst, academic, journalist and author of the new book American Covenant: How the Constitution Unified Our Nation―and Could Again, about how we can look beyond Tuesday's polls to what truly makes America great and where we can go from here.

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Host Abby McCloskey talks with Henry Olsen, senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and former columnist at The Washington Post about polling in the home stretch of the election, who is likely to win between Trump and Harris, and what America could look like a year or a generation from now.

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Host Abby McCloskey talks with Glenn Hubbard, former dean of the Columbia University Graduate School of Business, and former presidential advisor and chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, about the economic prospects of a Trump or Harris administration.

Note: the discussion includes references to Hubbard's books which can be found here:

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Host Abby McCloskey interviews David Kramer, the executive director of the George W. Bush Institute, about conflicts around the globe and America's role in them.

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