Layoffs aren’t a strategy. In this episode of AI with Bry, I sit down with Christine Santacroce, a people-first leader and transformation expert, to show how companies can scale profitably with AI without gutting their teams. Christine has spent two decades guiding leaders through change. Today, she’s building AI-enabled recruiting and workforce systems that free humans from the drudge work, elevate craftsmanship, and create room for creativity, service, and growth.

In this episode, you’ll learn how to:

• Flip the script on “efficiency”: Use AI to increase profitability with the same headcount, not justify cuts.
• Lead with humans-in-the-loop: Why governance, evaluation windows, and role-specific upskilling beat “set-and-forget” automation.
• Fix inputs first: Garbage-in → garbage-out. Data hygiene, prompts, and clear guidelines are the difference between noise and ROI.

• Crawl → Walk → Run:

• Manual prototyping (GPT/Claude/Grok)
• No-code workflows to “think in systems”
• Guard-railed automation + human review

• Rebuild culture: Safety and experimentation unlock bottom-up ideas (where the real process knowledge lives).
• Measure what matters: Replace vanity “AI-first” labels with business cases tied to cycle time, quality, CX, and margin.

Real-world use cases we unpack:

• AI that cuts 50–60% of recruiting busywork (sourcing, screening, outreach) so teams spend time in high-trust conversations.
• Marketing for small firms that looks enterprise-grade—without enterprise budgets.
• Internal, workflow-fit tools (vs. tool-fit workflows) that scale operations without proportional hiring.
• Ethical lines: why we don’t ship sentiment-steering “gotcha” tools—and how principles keep you honest when capability tempts you.

Tools & ideas mentioned

• ChatGPT, Claude, Grok, Perplexity
• Model Context Protocol (MCP), “vibe coding,” EOS/ops software using AI
• Guardrails, evaluation dashboards, and governance as enablers (not blockers)

Who this is for

Leaders, HR/People Ops, and RevOps teams who are done playing defense with layoffs and ready to play offense with better workflows, cleaner data, and a braver culture.

Connect with Christine Santacroce

• 📧 [email protected]
• Virago Search AI-enabled recruiting: https://www.viragosearch.com/
• SkillzForge AI talent matching: https://skillzforge.ai/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csantacroce/

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