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Most builders adopt AI in a weekend. Their crew never touches it. Andrew Nuhfer cracked the part everyone gets wrong: getting a field-bred team of carpenters to actually run the tech.

Andrew built AKN Interiors into a 15-person Pittsburgh remodeling shop in four years, with no tech background. In this conversation he breaks down how he made software the standard instead of an optional good idea, how his 50-year-old director of construction went from typing with two fingers to doing everything the office staff can, and the Claude and JobTread "budget factory" that turns a recorded sales call into a budget in the customer's own words. Most $3M builders are still hand-entering data that AI could be writing for them. Andrew shows you what to fix first.

If your team ignores half the tools you pay for, this is the episode that fixes it.

OTHER ANDREW NUHFER RESOURCES 🔗

• See AKN's work: https://www.akninteriors.com
• Follow Andrew on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/akn_interiors
• Find Andrew in the JobTread Pros group

🎯 Get in Touch with Beyond the Bid

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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantfuellenbach
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TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction

00:38 The Showroom Project

04:05 From Finance to Carpentry

06:33 Overcoming Tech Resistance

14:16 Avoiding Shiny Toy Syndrome

18:52 AI in Construction

25:36 Scaling Advice

29:01 Summary and Outro

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Builders lose $750+ for every day a job runs behind. Chad's client system that stops it → https://constructionflowpro.com/

Most builders think their next profit leak is in the field. It's not. Chad Eslinger built custom homes for nearly 30 years before he found the two leaks no software can reach, and they both start with the client.

Oregon's contractor board says 95% of complaints come from poor communication, not poor work. That gap is where margin dies: change orders nobody saw coming, schedules blown by one late selection, disputes that started as a simple misunderstanding. Chad's fix is contrarian. Instead of buying more software, he "upgrades the client" with an education system he hands over before pre-construction, roughly 98 minutes of video and a printed binder that turns a first-time homeowner into the experienced client every builder wishes they had. Here's what most $3M+ builders miss: he gives it away whether they sign or not, and it's won him nearly every competitive bid he wanted. We also get into giving each project its own AI "brain" the client can question before they panic.

If your systems are dialed and you're still leaking margin, this is the conversation your competitors hope you skip.

OTHER CHAD ESLINGER RESOURCES 🔗

• The client system that wins bids (Construction Flow): https://constructionflowpro.com/
• Chad's custom homes (Eslinger Homes): https://eslingerhomes.com/
• Chad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadeslingerhomes/
• Email Chad: [email protected]

🎯 Get in Touch with Beyond the Bid

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• LinkedIn: Grant Fuellenbach
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• Email: [email protected]

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction

03:13 Meet Chad Esslinger

05:36 The Power of Education

12:20 Managing Project Variables

16:02 Building Radical Trust

18:22 The Golden Zone

33:27 AI and Future Systems

37:10 Practical Advice for Builders

39:56 Risk Assessment

42:06 Conclusion

Find the margin leak draining your profit before AI buries it deeper. Take the GO First AI Diagnostic: https://gofirstconsulting.com/diagnostic

Most builders bolt AI onto a messy back end and wonder why the numbers never move. Eric, a one-man remodel shop out of Bozeman, did the opposite. He learned his own business cold, then built AI to run on his terms.

Eric spent years believing his craft was too custom to systematize. That belief kept him working for $4 an hour and calling it integrity. Once he looked at his numbers, he built a self-hosted estimating back end that pushes into JobTread, a quality gate he calls the Refinery so AI stops handing him slop, and a two-button clock-in screen for his crew. None of it replaced his tools. It made him a sharper operator who knows what good work looks like before he covers it up.

If you run a small shop, this is the conversation that separates builders who own their systems from the ones renting someone else's.

OTHER ERIC O'KEEFE RESOURCES 🔗

• See his work and open-source tools: iheartwoodcraft.com
• Connect with Eric on LinkedIn:

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TIMESTAMPS00:00 Foundation first, then AI01:22 Where Eric and Grant first met06:42 The mentor who picked him for how he solved problems09:43 Learning the trades in remote Alaska16:32 Why remodeling is a creativity test, not just labor18:14 The artisan ego trap that was costing him money18:34 From $4 an hour to looking at the real numbers22:39 Building AI around your weak spots, not your ego28:41 Learn to sweat copper: judge the work before you cover it30:32 Why feeding AI without standards gives you slop32:28 The Refinery: a quality gate you control39:38 The estimating back end he owns and runs himself41:11 Two buttons for the crew: the right tool for the role48:46 Charging the margins you actually deserve53:23 Why he made all of it open source

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This episode is general information for construction business owners, not financial, legal, or tax advice.© 2026 Beyond the Bid. All rights reserved.

🔧 Find the margin leak in your business in 7 minutes, before your competitor does: www.gofirstconsulting.comMost remodelers give estimates away for free. Trent Raines charges $30,000 before he'll bid your project, and it changed who walks through his door.Trent runs Collected Living Design, a $150K average remodeler in Kansas City that was booked six months out two weeks after launch. In this conversation he breaks down the 10% pre-construction agreement: clients pay 10% of the projected total for a real design, real selections, and a real number they own, and that fee sits on top of the build price instead of inside it. Most $3M builders are still doing it backwards, eating nights and weekends on free bids for people who were never going to sign. Trent's filter weeds out the tire-kickers and the 3-bid shoppers before they touch his calendar. He also gets into where AI earns its keep on estimating, catching the baseboard line you forgot instead of building the bid, plus the 100-page operations manual that finally let him hire.If you've ever stayed up until 1am building a free bid for a client who ghosted you, this is the episode you send to yourself.OTHER TRENT RAINES RESOURCES 🔗See the Collected Living Design portfolio: https://collectedlivingdesign.com/portfolioFollow the work on Instagram: @collectedlivingdesignStart a project in Kansas City: https://collectedlivingdesign.com🎯 Get in Touch with Beyond the BidInstagram: @beyondthebidLinkedIn: Beyond the BidWebsite: beyondthebid.coEmail: [email protected] (estimated, verify against final cut)00:00 Why "just staying in business" beats the beach-money fantasy01:30 Booked 6 months out, 2 weeks after launch04:00 Starting from design, skipping the buddy's-basement entry07:00 "You've known me 1 hour. Give me $100K." The trust problem11:00 Why he stopped flinching at his own price14:00 The $105K cabinet bid: the cost of everyone staying in business17:00 The budget question that actually works20:00 Charge 10% before you bid: the pre-con agreement24:00 Why he stopped deducting it from the build price28:00 The $50K cheap-bid trap32:00 The 36-inch door: how a live-size model saved $20K35:00 Where AI actually helps your estimates39:00 The 100-page ops manual that lets you hire43:00 Apocaloptimist: AI, robots, and riding the wave44:30 Where to find Collected Living Design—👍 Like if this saved you a free bid. 💬 Comment the worst free-estimate story you've got. 🔔 Subscribe for weekly systems breakdowns. ↗️ Share this with the builder who's still giving away their time.Beyond the Bid is produced by GO First Consulting. This content is for informational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or business advice. © 2026 Beyond the Bid. All rights reserved.

Build your own operating system instead of renting one. Join Nathan's BlueCollarOS community free before the next cohort fills → https://www.skool.com/bluecollaros-8198

The person who finds termite damage on demo day should be the one building the software, not Silicon Valley. Nathan Spearing has been a builder since he was 13, restores historic homes, and got tired of paying for tools built without him. So he built his own.

In this episode he shows what happens when a working remodeler owns his entire back office. He coded a change order on the hood of his car while a client watched. He runs a branded client portal his customers like better than anything he ever bought. He keeps JobTread for the data but refuses to let it own him. Most builders are still renting software that does 80% of what they want and 0% of what makes them different. Nathan picked a different road, and his clients keep calling him the most organized builder they have ever hired.

This is the conversation every owner buried in admin needs to hear before their competitors do.

OTHER NATHAN SPEARING RESOURCES 🔗

Join the BlueCollarOS community and cohort: https://www.skool.com/bluecollaros-8198/about

Follow Nathan on X (where he builds in public): https://x.com/thespearing

See his remodeling work at Transform NC: https://www.transformnc.com

More on Nathan: https://spearing.co

🎯 Get in Touch with Beyond the Bid

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 The contractor everyone calls chaos

01:45 Building a 1,700 sq ft addition at age 13

05:30 Homeschooled, oldest of 7, the "I can figure it out" mindset

09:30 Running a remodeling company and a software platform at once

13:00 Durable trades: why AI is not ripping the wall out

17:30 The aircraft carrier problem with big SaaS

21:00 Building the track under the train, live on the job

23:30 He coded a change order on the hood of his car

28:00 The portal so good his client caught the crew off-script

31:30 The branded client portal vs JobTread's interface

35:30 "They don't care how much you know, they want to know you care"

38:30 Why he re-upped JobTread but still owns his data

42:30 Track everything, dump it in one spot, decide later

46:30 The 16-foot beam and the discretionary credit change order

52:30 Automate the white-collar work you hate

56:00 Where to find Nathan

⚖️ This content is for informational purposes only and reflects the experience of the guest. Results vary by business. © 2026 Beyond the Bid. All rights reserved.

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A drafter wanted a few thousand dollars and five weeks for a permit set. Ian McCormick did it in an hour with Claude. The permit was issued the next day.

That is one piece of a much bigger overhaul. Ian and Sarah McCormick run McDevCo, a two-person custom home company building $5 million homes in Telluride. Ian put $600MM of commercial work in place before this. In this episode they walk through ripping out their entire tech stack and rebuilding it around AI: BuilderTrend to Resio, Proton Mail to Google Workspace, Zoom gone, Claude running everything from IT migrations to permit drawings to coordinating five trades on a modular build.

If you have ever felt like you are not a "tech person," so do they. That is exactly what makes this one worth your time.

What you'll hear:

• Why they ripped out the whole stack at once instead of one piece at a time
• Switching from BuilderTrend to Resio, and what they were really optimizing for
• The $3K, five-week permit done in one hour with Claude Design
• The festival blog SEO play that targets out-of-area buyers
• Hiring their first Super Manager, cradle to grave

McDevCo: https://www.mcdevcobuilds.comHiring a Super Manager: [email protected]More from Beyond the Bid: beyondthebid.co

Join Data X Friday Office Hours (free, every Friday 11am ET). Bring your toughest JobTread automation problem and Elliott, Peter, and Dominic will workshop it with you live: https://dax.toTwo builders just walked through the actual playbook that took them from $0 capital to 4 businesses each. No VC, no partners, no permission. Elliott Wittstruck and Peter Ranney of Data X are the counter-evidence most $3M builders think doesn't exist.Elliott went from a $3,000-a-month music teacher salary to 10 self-financed rental properties to 14 W-2 carpenters in 36 months. Peter went from a Clemson accounting degree to a 14-year design-build firm with 210+ home renovations through his nonprofit Sunshine on a Rainy Day. Together they built Data X, the AI platform that has 900 autonomous agents running for builders on JobTread in under 6 weeks.In this conversation they break down the adjacent stacking framework, the Gary Vaynerchuk-style giveaway play that built their following inside the JobTread Pros Facebook group, the specific AI agents saving builders 2+ hours a day on job costing, and why most builders use just 12% of the construction software they pay for. If you're stuck running every estimate, approving every change order, and watching margins fade while overhead climbs, this is the framework you've been told doesn't exist.This is the conversation that ends the "I need outside money to scale" excuse.OTHER ELLIOTT WITTSTRUCK AND PETER RANNEY RESOURCES 🔗- Try Data X free for 14 days: https://dax.to- Join Data X Friday Office Hours (free, weekly): https://datax.to- Elliott Wittstruck on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliottwittstruck/- Peter Ranney on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterranney/- Sunshine on a Rainy Day (Peter's nonprofit): https://sunshineonaranneyday.com/- Built With Love (Elliott's construction company): https://www.builtwithlovellc.com/- Randy Blair Wideman Design Build: https://www.ranneyblair.com/🎯 Get in Touch with Beyond the Bid- Instagram: @beyondthebid.co- LinkedIn: Beyond the Bid- Website: https://beyondthebid.co- Email: [email protected]🚀 Powered by- GO First Consulting: https://www.gofirstconsulting.com- JobTread: https://www.jobtread.com⚠️ Not financial, legal, or business advice. The systems discussed in this episode reflect the experience of the operators interviewed. Your results will depend on your business, your market, and your execution.📌 ENJOYED THIS EPISODE? Three quick ways to support the show:👍 LIKE this video so more builders find it💬 COMMENT below: which of Elliott's 4 businesses would you stack first?🔔 SUBSCRIBE to Beyond the Bid (your competitors already are)📲 SHARE this with one builder who needs to hear it© 2026 GO First Consulting. All rights reserved.

Most trade contractors lose money two ways and never see either one.

The daily leak: every clocked-in labor hour sits in timesheets and never feeds back into the next bid. So we keep estimating on a gut feeling and missing by 12 to 30 percent per job.

The permanent leak: the 30-year veteran retires. Decades of margin-protecting knowledge walks out with him. No system. No backup.

Edward Rivera owns Ion Electrical in New Hampshire. He plugged both leaks with one system. Four years of his own historical labor hours, layered under 30,000+ NECA labor units, with Claude flagging every estimate against the truth. Same digital twin is capturing his 46-year energy efficiency expert before that knowledge walks out the door.

In this episode we cover:

00:00 Introduction

00:41 Building Ion Electrical

03:29 Digital Twins in Construction

08:06 AI-Driven Business Strategy

16:54 Scaling Operational Efficiency

24:11 Collaborative Brainstorming

32:59 The Human Element

42:34 Conclusion and Contact

Featured quote:"I run it through my digital twin because it's watching my back constantly." — Edward Rivera

—RESOURCES —

Edward Rivera and Ion Electrical: ionelectricalllc.com

Edward on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwordrivera/

The Unscaled Engine Scorecard: unscalable.zite.so

GO First AI Diagnostic: https://gofirstconsulting.com/diagnostic

— ABOUT BEYOND THE BID —

Beyond the Bid is the show for residential builders and trade contractors who scaled past their personal capacity. We bring on real operators who've installed systems, automated chaos, and bought back their time.

Hosted by Grant Fuellenbach, founder of GO First Consulting.

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Get 21 Days of Free Vertical Alignments from Christene Marie (the morning practice she runs with Toyota execs and trades operators): https://verticalalignment.com

Most construction brands die with the founder. Christene Marie's family business just hit 100 years — and she brands Toyota and Amazon on the side.

In this episode, the 4th-generation Partner at Hoffman Painting & Finishing breaks down the brand and legacy systems she installs before any tool, campaign, or growth play touches the business. She walked into her family's 90-year-old painting company in 2017 — no website, no online presence, nothing — and rebuilt the brand from the ground up.

What she names as the real reason most construction brands die with their founder isn't marketing. It's not advertising. It's something almost no $5M builder will admit they're missing — and she breaks it down using the same framework she runs with Fortune 50 healthcare and Toyota.

If your name's on every contract and you've never asked what happens when you stop showing up — start here.

OTHER CHRISTENE MARIE RESOURCES 🔗

- Get 21 Days of Free Vertical Alignments: https://verticalalignment.com

- Listen to The Craft & Calling Podcast:

- Christene's website: https://christenemarie.com

- The Knowing Agency: https://www.theknowingagency.com

- Read "Knowing" (Christene's book):

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TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00:00] Cold open: Why most construction brands die with the founder

[00:01:30] Christene's first appearance on Beyond the Bid

[00:03:00] The AI shiny-object problem killing entrepreneur focus

[00:05:30] Why consistency beats chasing every new tool

[00:08:00] Owning your data: building a "second brain" with Obsidian

[00:11:30] Why Notebook LM is the right starting point for builders

[00:15:00] Lifting the hood: Christene's 30-day client diagnostic

[00:17:00] Customer journey buckets — where leads leak between departments

[00:19:30] Don't bolt AI onto broken process (the Nate Jones framework)

[00:22:00] Why most construction owners aren't visioning big enough

[00:25:00] The Michelangelo principle: failing to dream big enough

[00:27:30] Christene's 2017 return to Hoffman Painting and the brand rebuild

[00:31:00] Why her dad was prepared to let the business die with him

[00:34:00] Building a shield logo that includes all 6 kids

[00:38:00] The $34M roofing company that stopped doing what got them there

[00:45:00] The 11% cancellation rate most builders never measure

[00:48:00] Customer concierge: where AI actually belongs in the trades

[00:51:00] The 95% subconscious purchase decision (Harvard)

[00:54:00] Gamifying construction milestones for team motivation

[00:57:00] The Enneagram — what actually drives your employees

[01:01:00] Entrepreneur vs. operator: knowing what you want

[01:04:00] The Craft & Calling: family in the boardroom

[01:08:00] Vertical alignment — the morning practice for owners

[01:11:30] Christene's eulogy exercise at 30

[01:15:00] 21 days of free vertical alignments

[01:18:00] Why your personal brand is your most valuable asset

[01:20:00] Closing on legacy and brand identity

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Steve Young paid a Fiverr developer $21K in 2022 to build him an AI proposal tool. Three years later he scrapped it and started writing his own stack in Claude Code—and his close rate climbed from 13% to 20%, with a forecasted 25% on $300K average projects.

Most $5M builders are stuck on SaaS that almost-fits. They pay $30K/year for software vendors who build for the average user, then patch the gaps with manual work. Steve scrapped the entire approach. He learned about Cursor at IBS, switched to Claude Code on a coach's recommendation, and spent 45 days building a Next.js operating system that does what no off-the-shelf tool does: pulls Plaud transcripts, parses scope by room, renders before/afters in Gemini Nano Banana, and auto-prices off the JobTread API by zip code.

Here's the part that should keep every remodeler up at night: Steve is 54. Hadn't written code in 25 years. If he's building it himself, your competition is too.

This episode is the playbook. Watch the demo, copy the principles, then go build.

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OTHER STEVE YOUNG / HHI BUILDERS RESOURCES 🔗

- Visit HHI Builders: https://www.hhi-builders.com

- Try the Cost Estimator: https://www.hhi-builders.com

- Read Their Story: https://www.hhi-builders.com/the-story-of-our-company

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TIMESTAMPS

[00:00:00] The $21K Fiverr Tool That Started Everything

[00:01:30] Meet Steve Young: HHI Builders, Hilton Head Island

[00:03:00] From Retail Fit-Ups to a $9M Remodeling Forecast

[00:05:30] The "Bored to Death Retirement" That Built a Company

[00:07:00] Why Coaching Was the Best Money They Ever Spent

[00:09:30] BBA to Win Rate: When to Switch Coaches

[00:11:30] The Project Manager / Project Director Sales Process

[00:13:00] The 8% Design Retainer System ($200/hr Billed)

[00:15:30] How CQC Home's Process Saved Their Margin

[00:17:30] The 5-Year Database That Prices Bathrooms by Square Foot

[00:21:00] Why JobTread Beat CoConstruct (And Why It Mattered)

[00:23:30] The PowerPoint → ChatGPT → NotebookLM → Custom Stack Journey

[00:27:00] Tracked Close Rate: 13% → 20% → Forecast 25%

[00:30:00] Why Gemini Nano Banana Beats Every Other Renderer

[00:32:00] Why Cursor Got Him Stuck and Claude Code Set Him Free

[00:35:00] The 3-Way AI Debug Check (5-Person Meeting → 15 Minutes)

[00:39:00] Trade-Perspective Plan Review (Carpenter, Plumber, Electrician)

[00:42:00] Demo Begins: The Plaud-to-Proposal Pipeline

[00:46:00] Render API Integration: Floor Plans from the Walkthrough

[00:50:00] AI Estimate Generation: Catalog + Allowance + Zip Code Pricing

[00:55:00] Photo Processing and the Zillow Scraper Chrome Extension

[00:58:00] Live Demo: Bathroom Render in Gemini Nano Banana

[01:05:00] Pricing Breakdown With AI-Explained Allowances

[01:10:00] The Vibe Board Slide Deck Builder

[01:18:00] Style Presets, Branding, and the Integrations Stack

[01:25:00] What's Coming in V2: The Virtual Designer

[01:30:00] Steve's #1 Advice for Builders (Hint: It's Not AI)

[01:33:00] How to Interview a Coach Like a Hire

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