Beyond the Pills

What do you do when you have tried everything and the pain is still there?

Debora Wayne has spent over three decades answering that question for tens of thousands of people in more than 160 countries. And her answer begins not with the body, but with what surrounds it.

In this episode, Josh Rimany sits down with Debora, founder and CEO of the International Chronic Pain Institute, energy healer, best-selling author of Why Do I Still Hurt?, and the only person in the world who trains practitioners in her proprietary Biofield Healing Immersion method, to explore what the field of energy surrounding your body may be telling you about your health that no diagnostic test has ever picked up.

Debora shares her own origin story, explains what the biofield actually is, and walks through the three-part framework she built over decades: clearing the energy field, examining false beliefs, and releasing suppressed emotions, and why all three must be addressed for lasting healing to take hold.

Listen as we uncover ancient wisdom, quantum science, and a path out of pain that starts before the body ever breaks down here on Beyond The Pills.

Debora Wayne is the founder and CEO of The International Chronic Pain Institute®. She is an internationally recognized energy healer and pain release specialist who helps people rapidly find and remove hidden causes of chronic pain, chronic fatigue, depression and anxiety, trauma, insomnia, migraines, and struggles with food, weight, and binge-eating. She is a speaker, educator, and #1 Bestselling Author of Why Do I Still Hurt? – Rapid Relief for Chronic Pain, Depression, Anxiety, and More. Debora holds degrees and certifications in Psychology, Hypnotherapy, and Chemical Dependency Counseling, with over 30 years of experience practicing and teaching the Art of Meditation. She is also a nationally recognized Fine Artist, former professional Modern Dancer, Certified Yoga Instructor, Reiki Master, and creator of The HighSpeed Healing™ method.

Website: https://internationalcpi.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborawayne/

Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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Most people come out of a cancer diagnosis with a revised bucket list. Mary Dee came out of hers with a hundred-foot zip line in her front yard.

In this episode, Josh Rimany is with Mary Dee, breast cancer survivor, two-decade business advisor, founder of the Joy Catalyst, and host of the Mad Love Your Life show, for an honest and human conversation about healing, decision-making, and what joy actually does to the body when you choose it on purpose.

Mary explains how she gathered evidence from Eastern and Western medicine simultaneously, how removing root canals on the meridian line connected to her breast reduced her tumor to less than half its size before surgery, and how a 50-50 statistical prognosis became the moment she decided to do it her way. Ten clean years later, she is here to tell that story, and to share what she unlearned about urgency, productivity, and the quiet lie that work deserves more of you than your own body does.

Catch this episode of Beyond The Pills for a conversation about what it actually means to choose your life.

Mary Dee is a breast cancer survivor, two-decade business advisor, founder of the Joy Catalyst, and host of the Mad Love Your Life show. After building and losing a multi-million-dollar business while simultaneously navigating a breast cancer diagnosis at 40, she rebuilt everything around one principle: joy is not a reward for surviving. It is the medicine. She works with CEOs, entrepreneurs, and impact-driven leaders to help them design lives and businesses that do not cost them their health, their presence, or their peace.

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Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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Nature figured out the healing code a long time ago. Most of us just stopped listening.

In this episode, Josh Rimany sits down with Jenn Payeur, founder of Nature Provides, author of Ancient Plant Wisdom, and filmmaker behind a documentary that has won 18 international film festival awards, to explore the most overlooked cellular medicine in the plant kingdom: plant stem cells.

Jenn explains what plant stem cells are, why they are found only in the new growth of spring buds, and why they do three things no other plant remedy does the same way: drain and clear toxic terrain, repair what has broken down at the cellular level, and bring the body's signaling system back into coherence. She and Josh also dig into the ancient history of gemmotherapy dating back to Hildegard of Bingen, the light medicine that Dr. Canillo discovered inside the tincture itself, and which commonly prescribed medications Jenn has seen become unnecessary through aligned natural support, including PPIs, statins, SSRIs, and beta blockers.

None of this is medical advice. All of it is worth knowing.

If you are tired, inflamed, medicated, or skeptical, this is the conversation to start with. This is Beyond The Pills.

Jenn Payeur is the founder of Nature Provides, author of Ancient Plant Wisdom, and filmmaker behind the Nature Provides documentary series, which has won 18 international film festival awards. After a 29-year executive career in financial services and a life-threatening health crisis, she became the steward of plant stem cell medicine, a form of gemmotherapy rooted in ancient European naturopathic tradition. She left her corporate career in 2017 to become a teacher and mentor, traveling around the world to educate others on the inherent healing properties found in nature. In 2019, she started Nature Provides, whose mission is to transform health and well-being through organic plant-based herbs and essential oils and get these remedies into the hands of the people and practitioners who need them most.

Website: https://nature-provides.com/

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Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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Every ancient healing tradition on the planet has one thing in common. You are doing it right now. You have been doing it since the moment you were born.

In this episode, Josh Rimany sits down with Adrienne Rivera, founder of Breath of Gold, TEDx speaker, and Amazon best-selling author, to go far beyond the mechanics of breathing into the doorway it opens: clarity, emotional release, trauma processing, creative insight, and the kind of nervous system reset that clients describe as equivalent to nine years of therapy in a single session.

Adrienne shares her own origin story, her three-part Breath of Gold model, and what breathwork has revealed about relationship patterns and emotional triggers. She explains how it unlocks creative thinking for entrepreneurs and business owners, the critical harm reduction piece that too many breathwork facilitators skip entirely, and why the right practice for someone depends entirely on their nervous system, their history, and where they are in life.

Ancient wisdom, nervous system science, and the one tool that has been with you since birth. Know more in the full episode of Beyond The Pills.

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Adrienne Rivera is the founder of Breath of Gold, a TEDx speaker, and an Amazon best-selling author. She is one of the most respected breathwork trainers and facilitators in the world, leading thousands of people through sessions that clients describe as equivalent to nine years of therapy in one session. She is building a trauma-informed breathwork certification program that bridges doctors, neuroscientists, therapists, and ancient breath traditions. She hosts retreats in Reno, Nevada, and leads breathwork summits featuring expert speakers from across the health, wellness, and healing space.

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Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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In this episode, Josh Rimany speaks with Jon Armstrong, CEO and founder of Get Healthy Store, to introduce something that has been missing from the health and wellness space: a curated, practitioner-led marketplace where quality is pre-vetted, the relationship stays intact, and your healer never loses the thread.

Jon shares his own origin story, breaks down why affiliate models quietly transfer your customers to other companies, why Amazon has admitted that a significant portion of its supplement listings are counterfeit, and why the three buyer values in the health and wellness industry—quality, trust, and convenience—can only be delivered when the practitioner owns the relationship.

Listen to Beyond The Pills for a conversation about what health and wellness looks like when it is built around the patient, the community, and a practitioner who never gets cut out of the loop.

Jon Armstrong is the CEO and founder of Get Healthy Store, a curated supplement and lifestyle wellness marketplace built specifically for practitioners and clinical influencers. With a background in software, e-commerce, and marketing analytics, he was an early Amazon partner before becoming a patient himself, navigating thyroid cancer, leaky gut, and gluten intolerance. He built the platform he needed when he could not find it. Get Healthy Store carries 400-plus contracted brands, 10,000-plus vetted products, and is built around one principle: the practitioner owns the relationship and the data.

Website: https://gethealthy.store/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-armstrong-ba8238/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gethealthyjon/

Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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You track your sleep. You take the supplements. You get eight hours. And you still wake up tired.

In this episode, Josh Rimany shares the mic with Michael Laing, co-founder of Airway Health, to explore the one structural problem that no one at your last physical ever mentioned: your airway may be too small, and it has been quietly working against you your entire life.

Michael breaks down why modern soft diets are shrinking our jaw bones over generations, why that narrowing airway causes micro-arousals that fragment REM sleep without ever waking you up, and why CPAP is a band-aid rather than a solution. He explains how palatal expansion, myofunctional therapy, and airway-focused orthodontics actually fix the structure rather than manage the symptom, and what a 25% increase in airway volume feels like from the inside. He also walks through the T-spot, a simple tongue posture technique anyone can start using today for free.

If you have been doing everything right and still do not feel right, watch this episode of Beyond The Pills.

Michael Laing is the co-founder of Airway Health, a clinical practice in Austin, Texas, that addresses sleep apnea and breathing dysfunction at the structural root through palatal expansion, myofunctional therapy, and airway-focused orthodontic alignment. With a background in nutrition, lifestyle medicine, and corporate wellness, he brings a whole-person perspective to what most people are told is a lifelong machine-dependent condition.

Website: https://www.airwayhealth.com/

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Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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The future of medicine may not be about replacing the body. It may be about working with its rhythm.

In this episode of Beyond the Pills, Josh Rimany presents at the North Carolina Integrative Medical Society, covering next-level compounding, precision medicine, liposomes, nanoemulsions, peptides, BHRT, and TRT, along with the clinical shift from symptom management to whole-person healing.

Josh connects pharmacy, functional medicine, clinical nutrition, ancient wisdom, modern science, and community to explore what care can look like when technology meets bio-individual needs.

This conversation is for listeners and providers who want a grounded look at personalized medicine without losing sight of the body’s own intelligence.

Listen to this episode of Beyond the Pills: The Future Of Compounding: Science, Spirit, And Precision Medicine

Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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A man can be strong, successful, and still disconnected from himself.

In this solo episode of Beyond the Pills, Josh Rimany introduces the Lover Warrior framework as part of a deeper conversation about men's vitality, modern masculinity, open-hearted leadership, and whole-person alignment.

Josh explores why many men know how to build, achieve, protect, and push hard, but may struggle to receive, soften, connect, and stay present when life gets uncomfortable. This is not about becoming less masculine. It is about becoming more whole.

This conversation is for men who are successful on the outside, asking deeper questions on the inside, and looking for a more grounded way to lead with strength and love at the same time.

Listen to this episode of Beyond the Pills: The Lover Warrior: Why Successful Men Feel Disconnected

Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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What if the missing prescription is not another pill, but coherence?

In this solo episode of Beyond the Pills, Josh Rimany introduces the idea that some symptoms may be connected to incoherence: the body, mind, emotions, nervous system, and actions moving in different directions instead of working together.

Josh explains how stress, anxiety, inflammation, decision fatigue, disconnection, and nervous system overwhelm can show up when the body is out of rhythm. He also shares how tools like breathwork, meditation, nature, stillness, heart rate variability, and HeartMath-style coherence practices can help people begin moving toward alignment.

This episode is for anyone who feels tired, foggy, anxious, disconnected, or stuck and wants one practical way to reconnect with the body before reaching for another protocol.

Listen to this episode of Beyond the Pills: What If Your Symptoms Are Caused By Incoherence?

Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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What if testosterone is not the real problem, but only one signal in a much bigger vitality conversation?

In this solo episode of Beyond the Pills, Josh Rimany introduces a new short-form solo format and explores what it means to go beyond testosterone.

He breaks down why some men chase TRT, supplements, protocols, and lab numbers while still feeling exhausted, disconnected, unmotivated, and stuck.

Josh explains why testosterone, sleep, nutrition, and strength training matter, but may work more like amplifiers than the full answer. He also shares how stress, constant achievement mode, disconnection, and lack of alignment can drain the nervous system and keep men from feeling truly vital.

Listen to this episode of Beyond the Pills: Beyond TRT: The Deeper Conversation Men Need To Have

Josh Rimany is the host of Beyond the Pills, a show exploring where ancient wisdom meets modern science for true healing. As a pharmacist turned healer, Josh leads conversations that help people look beyond symptom chasing and into root-cause health, lifestyle, and whole-person wellness.

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