In this episode, Desiree sits down with executive and entrepreneur John Pasmore, whose career spans finance, media, and tech—from running family offices to co-founding VoyageTV and launching the AI-driven platform Latimer.ai. His mission? Using technology to close equity gaps in education and opportunity.

Together, they dive into the intersection of A.I. and DEI, unpacking how algorithmic bias is impacting hiring, access, and fairness in a post-affirmative action world. From the Workday and iTutorGroup lawsuits to corporate DEI backlash, they explore whether tech can be trusted to fix the bias it helped create—and what tools and frameworks are needed to course correct.

Before getting into the legal breakdown, John takes on some rapid-fire questions—Isley Brothers or Gap Band? Sailing or swimming?—and even picks between ChatGPT or BlackGPT 

Let’s talk facts, fairness, and the future of tech.

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