These two "clobber verses" in the book of Leviticus are among the Bibles most challenging scriptures. Join us as we continue with an affirming, LGBTQIA+ positive view of the Bible.

Today: Leviticus 18 verse 22 and Leviticus 20 verse 13.

Transcript: https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/4

An older version of this episode is also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PrjcJpHK1yg  (although the audio is not quite as good as the podcast)

References and URLs:

Levitical clobber verses:

1. https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/leviticus-1822-2013/

2. https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22

3. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/#:~:text=Levitical%20Law%20says

4. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/#:~:text=Leviticus

5. https://www.religioustolerance.org/interpreting-Leviticus-18-22.htm

6. List of Levitical sins: https://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2012/06/13/76-things-banned-in-leviticus-and-their-penalties.html

7. https://www.religioustolerance.org/hombiblot.htm#:~:text=Leviticus%2018:22

8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Leviticus_18_and_20

9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality#Leviticus_18_and_20

10. https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-leviticus#:~:text=Preview

Travel safety for LQBTQIA+ individuals, families and employees:

A. www.asherfergusson.com/lgbtq-travel-safety/

B. www.safehome.org/data/lgbtq-state-safety-rankings/

C. www.smartraveller.gov.au/before-you-go/who-you-are/LGBTIQuotes voiced by Speechelo

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The deeper meaning of the first two clobber verses: “Sodom and Gomorrah” in Genesis 19 and “The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine” in Judges 19-21.

What is really going on in these two stories? Are these mobs of gay rapists…? And what should we learn from these stories?

Transcript: https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/3 

A previous version of this episode called Mobs of Gay Rapists? is available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/zsCqbh9rAGg  (the audio is not quite as good as the podcast)

References and URLs:

“ANGELS OF INDETERMINATE GENDER IN GENESIS 19”

by Rev. Dave Barnhart (this URL loads slowly)

http://tiny.cc/DaveB1

More on the gender of Angels:

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Gender_variance_in_Christianity#Angels_in_Christianity

Rape in clobber verses #1 and #2 -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Genesis_19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible#Judges

And for more information on: Sodom and Gomorrah see episode 1 and its notes.

And for more information on: The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine see episode 2 and its notes.

Judges Chapters 19-21 parallels and foreshadows sexual violence against women, people of color, sexual minorities, slaves, prisoners and indigenous peoples. Here are a few references:

History of sexual violence against sexual minorities:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5791869/

www.jstor.org/stable/i40206369

www.jstor.org/stable/40663407

www.rainn.org/articles/lgbtq-survivors-sexual-violence

http://tiny.cc/Violence1

Sexual abuse of slaves in America:

http://tiny.cc/slaveryref1

http://tiny.cc/slaveryref2

Rape during wars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_sexual_violence

www.hrw.org/video-photos/interactive/2017/10/05/they-said-we-are-their-slaves

Sexual violence throughout history:

http://tiny.cc/Violence2

The rape of Indigenous peoples in America:

www.jstor.org/stable/25605630

Rape of men during wars and conflicts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wartime_sexual_violence#Rape_of_men

This story of sexual violence has been twisted to blame gay men… Yet it has nothing to do with consensual same-sex relationships. Spanning three chapters in the Book of Judges, the Murder of the Levite’s Concubine foreshadows the treatment of minorities around the world.

Transcript: https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/2

This episode is also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/TNFQpguSvb0  (although the audio is not quite as good as the podcast).

References and URLs for this podcast on The Murder of the Levite’s Concubine:

1. https://whosoever.org/the-bible-and-homosexuality-judges-19/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levite%27s_concubine

3. https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/

4. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/

5. https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/concubine-of-levite-bible

6. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/030908929502006705?journalCode=jota

7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_the_Hebrew_Bible #Judges

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What is this story actually about? Gay men or…? The Prophet Ezekiel explains Genesis 19, the first of the “clobber verses.”

Transcript: https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/1

This episode is also available on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ySuB631FzQA (although the audio is not quite as good as the podcast)

References and URLs for this podcast on Sodom and Gomorrah:

1. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/

2. https://c-ucc.org/open-and-affirming-part-3-sodom-and-gomorrah-is-not-about-homosexuality

3. http://queergrace.com/sodom/

4. www.westarinstitute.org/blog/sodom-and-gomorrah-how-the-classical-interpretation-gets-it-wrong/

5. www.gaychurch.org/homosexuality-and-the-bible/the-bible-christianity-and-homosexuality/

6. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/

7. https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-genesis #:~:text=Preview 

8. https://medium.com/@adamnicholasphillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality-seriously-it-doesn-t-13ae949d6619

9. https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/genesis-19-cf-1820/

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No story has had a greater influence on the Christian condemnation of the LGBTQ+ community than the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. 

Told at the beginning of the Bible in Genesis 19 (GN 19: 1-29) the story has little to do with homosexuality and nothing to do with consensual sex. We examine what the prophet Ezekiel says (EZ 16: 49) and the scholar Derrick Sherwin Bailey, in his classic book “Homosexuality and the Western Christian Tradition” where he says: There is not the least reason to believe, as a matter of either historical fact or of revealed truth, that the city of Sodom and its neighbors were destroyed because of their homosexual practices.”

For more info, Check out our website: www.TheBibleAndHomosexuality.com

References and URLs for this podcast on Sodom and Gomorrah:

1. https://postbarthian.com/2017/10/11/clobber-verses-six-scriptures-cited-gays-lesbians-sex-relationships-lgbtq/

2. https://c-ucc.org/open-and-affirming-part-3-sodom-and-gomorrah-is-not-about-homosexuality

3. http://queergrace.com/sodom/

4. https://www.westarinstitute.org/blog/sodom-and-gomorrah-how-the-classical-interpretation-gets-it-wrong/

5. https://www.gaychurch.org/homosexuality-and-the-bible/the-bible-christianity-and-homosexuality/

6. https://serendipitydodah.wordpress.com/2017/02/27/the-clobber-verses/

7. https://unclobber.mykajabi.com/unclobbering-genesis

8. https://medium.com/@adamnicholasphillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality-seriously-it-doesn-t-13ae949d6619

9. https://ecinc.org/clobber-passages/genesis-19-cf-1820/

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In this series we will address the “clobber verses” conservative churches incorrectly  use to condemn same-sex couples.

We will discuss the many affirming verses in scripture God uses to bless sexual and gender minorities.

And we will talk about the teaching of sexual purity. How many churches are teaching young Christians—straight and queer—non-Biblical rules that few can follow. And the guilt, shame and poor decisions that follow.

Transcript: https://thebibleandhomosexuality.com/intro

This Introduction is also available on YouTube (although the audio quality is not as good as the podcast): https://youtu.be/zE9lR8XJx0k

References and URLs:

The risks for LGBTQIA Youth attending non-affirming churches:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/queer-youth-religion-suicide-study_n_5ad4f7b3e4b077c89ceb9774

The Difference Between a Welcoming Church and an Affirming One Is Huge

https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/4/03/difference-between-welcoming-church-and-affirming-one-huge

Preview of this series:

https://sophiedora.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/the-clobber-verses/

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