John and Cassel reflect on the echoes of racism in their own community, and unpack their similar but different relationships with the news.

Doll Test Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkpUyB2xgTM

How To Be An Antiracist
https://www.ibramxkendi.com/how-to-be-an-antiracist

21 Things You May Not Know About the Indian Act
https://www.ictinc.ca/books/21-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-indian-act

Braiding Sweetgrass
https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/

The discussion turns to people’s similarities and differences, and how they can each be best used for the betterment of society. Later John talks about a friend who contemplated suicide, and Cassel confronts his own implicit bias.

Trevor Noah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6eW018NMSU

Josiah Henson
https://www.josiahhensonproject.ca/

White fragility is unpacked along with how it may have been exacerbated by the COVID-19 pandemic. What follows is an exploration of empathy and understanding, as well as privilege.

The Antiracism Course
https://www.selamdebs.com/

Cassel and John unpack what it means to be white in North America, and just how deep white-centeredness runs through North American life. They also discuss recent “Karen” encounters.

The conversation turns to the subject of allies. Aba and Cassel discuss the recent influx of new allies, what they can do, and what they shouldn’t do.

Let’s Talk Kingston
https://www.facebook.com/kingstonletstalk

Dr. Aba Mortley joins the discussion. The conversation starts with her upbringing in Trinidad and how it contributed to her efforts in starting the conversation in Kingston. She later explains how we might keep the momentum of the events of the last two years.

John and Cassel react to Wawahte and the discovery of mass graves at Residential Schools. Cassel compares Canada’s oppression of Indigenous peoples to that of Blacks in the US, and John shares some insights into the science of prejudice.

University of Alberta
https://www.ualberta.ca/admissions-programs/online-courses/indigenous-canada/index.html

 Scientific American
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-flexibility-of-racial-bias/?fbclid=IwAR1s2ugwUk-LPDnFhwkKNxqO-fnNswJ5BE-SNXFPjxVrhlHXUcxvgN4mI_4

John tells Cassel about his involvement with grassroots efforts to bring the residential school story to the greater public. This is followed by a portion of Wawahte which recounts stories of Residential School survivors.

Wawahte Official Site - www.wawahte.com
Wawahte Documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGrJNUCQ-r4

Cassel explains how the past year has affected him as an actor and how he portrays Josiah. This leads to an exploration of the concept of love and the connectedness of people. Then John and Cassel finally address the elephant in the room; the mass graves found at Residential Schools.

https://www.kingstonist.com/news/letter-requesting-removal-of-sir-john-a-statue-in-kingston-city-park/?fbclid=IwAR0VM53SoIQsoa6S_VJuc0Wffx-TA_dX9ky58-dMTx6DWaMUnt3w-gY3XX0

With the growing awareness of systemic racism comes a great deal of angst and anger. The discussion continues with and exploration of awareness and what to do with it.