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"We're awash in lies and misinformation to a degree that was not possible before we got the internet and in particular before we got social media."
Our world seems more fragmented than ever. Author and podcaster Sam Harris thinks that an open conversation with 8 billion strangers could solve that. Here's his full Big Think interview, in its entirety.
Sam argues that the real problem isn’t bad people but bad ideas. He believes there’s a growing “crisis of meaning” caused by secularism, social media, and political division, making honest discussions harder.
He points out how online platforms spread misinformation, push people to extremes, and make cooperation difficult. He values reason over blind faith and encourages open conversations. He also promotes mindfulness and meditation to quiet the constant noise in our minds.
He’s worried about rising populism and authoritarianism, warning that ignoring big issues like climate change and AI could have serious consequences. To protect free societies, he says we need to stay rational and deal with these threats wisely.
Chapters for easier navigation:
00:00:00 - Finding meaning in a world of disinformation00:00:21 - When did you first become interested in debate?00:01:28 - What is causing the polarization we are seeing in our society?00:08:46 - How do we experience meaning?00:14:37 - What concerns you most about the future?00:21:49 - Why is freedom of speech such a powerful concept?00:28:48 - How do our belief systems affect the world around us?00:37:05 - How do we navigate the current landscape?00:45:00 - What can individuals do to make the world a better place?00:51:15 - How can we become better versions of ourselves?01:04:44 - How can we reframe our mental state into a positive experience?01:14:01 - Is artificial intelligence friend or foe?01:22:08 - How can we develop artificial intelligence responsibly?01:26:39 - How can the media regain lost trust?01:36:13 - How can you tell who is telling the truth in media?
About Sam Harris:Sam Harris is the author of the New York Times bestsellers, The End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation. The End of Faith won the 2005 PEN Award for Nonfiction.Mr. Harris' writing has been published in over ten languages. He and his work have been discussed in Newsweek, TIME, The New York Times, Scientific American, Rolling Stone, and many other journals. His writing has appeared in Newsweek, The Los Angeles Times, The Times (London), The Boston Globe, The Atlantic, Nature, The Annals of Neurology, and elsewhere.
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**🌌 What If the Universe Expands Because of… Selection?**
Sounds wild? It is. But maybe it’s not nonsense.
Let’s dive into this provocative idea — that **life, selection, and novelty** might be *fueling* the Universe’s expansion.
### 🌀 The Setup: A Universe in Motion
The Universe, as far as we can tell, has been **expanding** ever since the Big Bang.
Not just drifting outward — **accelerating**.
But **why** is it expanding faster?
And what’s it expanding *into*?
(Trick question — probably *nothing*. There’s no “outside” to space-time.)
### ❓ A Bigger Question: What If Selection Drives Expansion?
Now for the bold idea:
> **Could the Universe be expanding because of selection?**
Not natural selection in the Darwinian sense, but a **broader concept**:
- Wherever **matter interacts**,
- Wherever **patterns emerge**,
- Wherever **choices are made**,
there’s **selection** — and selection may be the engine of **novelty**.
### 🧠 Here’s the Thought Experiment:
1. **Big Bang** happens → universe starts expanding.
2. **Complexity arises** — atoms, molecules, stars, life.
3. **Life generates novelty**, explores possibilities, selects paths.
4. **Selection** becomes embedded in physical processes.
5. That selection might be **linked to the flow of time** — and maybe even **fuels the expansion**.
Think of it as:
> **The more selection, the more expansion.**
Wherever *stuff* interacts and selects — from particles to consciousness —
**space inflates** to accommodate complexity.
### 🔄 But What Even *Is* Time?
Time, in this view, isn’t just a backdrop — it’s **active**, driven by **irreversible change**, the one-way arrow of causality.
And if time is real — and not reversible — then maybe **selection through matter** is what keeps the clock ticking.
And keeps the cosmos stretching.
### 🔬 Is It Testable?
No, not yet. Maybe not ever.
But maybe we’ve been asking the wrong questions.
Instead of:
> “What force is driving expansion?”
Try asking:
> “What role does *novelty* play in the evolution of the cosmos?”
### 🧬 Life as Localized Selection
If selection per unit volume = life,
then maybe **life isn’t separate from the cosmos** — it’s just **one expression of the Universe’s selection process**.
That means:
- Even if no humans exist,
- Even if no Earth exists,
- **Wherever there’s interaction, there’s selection.**
And **where there’s selection… the Universe expands**.
### 🤯 Final Thought
This isn’t settled science. It might even be nonsense.
But **isn’t it thrilling** to wonder if your thoughts, your choices, your very existence
are *not just observers of the cosmos* —
but **contributors to its expansion**?
> What if we’re not just in the Universe…
> **What if we’re part of what keeps it growing?**
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Economist Tyler Cowen confirms there are good reasons to be crypto-skeptical.
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Don’t take the prodigy pathway. David Epstein says become a broad thinker instead.
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Black women are 3x more likely to die giving birth. Here’s one plan to fix that.
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You can’t predict success. But according to minds like Neil deGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku & more, you can hot wire it.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
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Dan Shapiro, the head of Harvard’s International Negotiation program, shares 3 keys to a better argument.
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