In this conversation, Jennifer and Graham discuss their differing views on birthdays. Jennifer shares her negative experiences and anxieties surrounding birthdays, while Graham expresses his love for celebrating them. They explore the societal expectations and pressures associated with birthdays, as well as the challenges of social interactions and food preferences. The conversation touches on neurodivergent traits, such as anxiety, overthinking, and difficulty with social contracts. Overall, the discussion highlights the complexity and personal nature of birthdays. Birthdays can be challenging for neurodivergent individuals, as they often involve social expectations, surprises, and gift-giving. Autistic individuals, in particular, may struggle with the pressure to react in a socially acceptable way to gifts that may not align with their specific interests or needs. The novelty aspect of ADHD can also make it difficult to maintain interest in gifts over time. Childhood experiences and past disappointments can further complicate the enjoyment of birthdays. However, with self-awareness and a focus on personal preferences, individuals can create meaningful and enjoyable birthday experiences.