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Joe Carlasare, an attorney, walks the room through AI copyright: whether AI output is a tool's product or a principal author's work decides if it can be protected at all, and why anonymous accounts offer no shelter from false-light judgments. Lorenzo opens on the Fed meeting with a simpler frame: he does not save in dollars, so he follows issuance, halvings, and difficulty instead of the rate decision. TC warns that AI can now read and write code better than humans, so every bug in every system is open season, and the room closes on a bet against Jason Calacanis that grows past $4 million.

Loren and Terence host Bitcoin Today live on X, weekdays at 8:30 AM PT.

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Chapters:

0:00:01.06 Opening banter, King James, sing-along

0:00:57.54 Fed preview: I don't save in dollars

0:01:43.88 Coinbase, Keystone hacks, trust no one

0:02:44.92 Mad World, Halloween, and a sick room

0:05:19.90 The $1M bet against Calacanis

0:08:09.16 Cathie Wood's fund sold $16M Bitcoin

0:08:50.38 Difficulty, hash rate, halvings

0:09:57.24 Simply Bitcoin's 500K-sat meme contest

0:12:06.12 Canada raised rates, EU revoked invite

0:12:51.11 TC: AI finds every bug now

0:16:10.14 Security wake-up: 2FA, password managers

0:18:39.68 Google's sharded institutional custody

0:21:48.40 AI bots, email access, privacy is gone

0:25:20.49 Interactive Bitcoin white paper

0:26:39.35 Mr. HODL: Grok, Gmail, privacy is gone

0:32:14.16 One API key connects every model

0:35:48.42 EntropyLab tonight, Chef's AI emails

0:38:25.36 Law firm AI, stack Bitcoin exposure

0:39:41.68 Built a game with AI, UI is dead

0:41:34.74 AI emails to bad managers

0:44:02.00 Wine advice: person vs prompt

0:49:09.32 AI replaces the dumb and mediocre

0:50:29.80 Harness, MCP, LLM: three pillars

0:53:01.44 UI is dead, roles changed

0:57:23.30 Pilot to control tower, experts matter

1:02:09.50 Joe: AI copyright, tool vs author

1:06:12.74 Memes, false light, $1M judgment

1:10:01.37 Digital discovery, LLM confidentiality

1:12:56.75 Joe: judgment can't be automated

1:19:35.14 The bet grows to $4M against Calacanis

1:21:24.68 Joe: slow down, emotional IQ

1:24:57.10 Struggle, proof of work, think yourself

1:33:36.50 Jimmy's flipped truck and community

1:36:27.88 AI in Netflix writers' rooms, slop TV

1:41:44.56 The bet hits $5M, closing the show

Watch the full segment: https://youtu.be/fqBeQV2hzsY

Terence Michael hosts an open-floor Bitcoin Today room that starts with the simplest question in personal finance: what actually preserves savings when bonds sit doing nothing for decades and the 401k is supposed to be fine? The room builds a working elevator pitch for Bitcoin, from 17 years of persistence to self-custody, the circle of trust, and why a crisis is what finally makes people question everything. The throughline is practical: stop cherry-picking timeframes, keep your own keys, and judge money by what it preserves, not what it promises.

Loren and Terence host Bitcoin Today live on X, weekdays at 8:30 AM PT.

X: @lorenhodl, @proofofmoney

Chapters:

0:00:00 Information overload opens the show

0:12:34 Bonds sat doing nothing for decades

0:15:00 How do you save? The simple question

0:15:39 Quantum hacks Bitcoin in ten years?

0:16:17 Dollars are great, your 401k is fine

0:25:48 Build an elevator pitch for Bitcoin

0:33:05 A bridge to bring people in

0:35:43 Bitcoin: lubricant for capitalism

0:38:15 Bitcoin solves a real problem

0:40:50 Wall Street billions in Bitcoin

0:44:19 Stop cherry-picking timeframes

0:48:04 A gallon of milk measures the money

0:53:35 Coldcard security and self-custody

0:57:43 The circle of trust

1:04:47 Say the wrong thing, lose groceries

1:06:04 Blockchain is instant and transparent

1:10:50 An Austrian economist all along

1:21:36 More debt, better credit score

1:25:17 Bitcoin is hope, they laugh at us

1:32:34 The mainstream story is false

1:33:37 A second job to keep up

1:35:53 The pitch depends on the person

1:37:01 A crisis makes you question all

1:49:56 Sign-off and closing banter

Watch the segment: https://youtu.be/wmvvQhkFFjg

Loren Hodl and the Bitcoin Today room work through the quantum FUD cycle, paper Bitcoin, and what actually secures a blockchain, from hacked-coin scenarios to the nominal amounts that matter. The room debates whether any other chain can ever reach Bitcoin's decentralization, why the top 10 from 2016 looks nothing like today, and what evidence would change their minds. The show closes on the gold flip: at least 10 years out, against a $30 trillion market cap, and what a $15 trillion Ethereum would mean for the thesis.

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YouTube segment: https://youtu.be/iUl5bUCXGgg

Chapters:

00:00 Paper Bitcoin fears open the show

10:39 Paper Bitcoin ends Bitcoin?

24:05 Quantum: hacked coins spent today

33:00 Quantum fix is 3 to 5 years out

39:07 The wheel of fortune of FUD

48:04 Quantum: look at the nominal amount

54:00 Exchange inflows: the real resource

1:03:00 What counts as a shitcoin

1:06:08 Venmo vs blockchain settlement

1:12:01 What is a blockchain?

1:12:48 No other chain reaches decentralization

1:13:20 Decentralization is a spectrum

1:33:01 Minted Bitcoin just cease to exist

1:45:00 Bitcoin outlives a 40-year horizon

1:49:02 Top 10 from 2016 looks way different

1:51:00 When Bitcoin flips gold: 10 years

1:51:54 Gold's market cap is $30 trillion

1:58:31 Closer: All We Do Is Win

Roberto argues Japan is the monetary experiment lab for the West: thirty years of QE, QQE, and yield curve control that never created growth, with yield curve control next for the United States if a bond market crisis hits. He calls the BIS the head of the Medusa and makes the finale case that Bitcoin solves the Triffin dilemma, because a reserve asset with no host country cannot break one, unlocking $20 to $40 trillion in daily trade liquidity and forced nation-state adoption. Terence Michael opens the show as Bitcoin's hash rate returns to one zettahash, one sextillion computations per second.

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00:00 Show open, 1929 to the moon

02:13 Hash rate back at one zettahash

04:35 The October 1929 anniversary

05:25 SpaceX bonds are yielding 8 percent

05:51 A massive shortage of capital

15:00 Boiling down an investment philosophy

24:25 JPMorgan says Bitcoin performs best

26:52 Natalie on the advisor business

27:32 A Bitcoin Alpha inheritance talk

29:17 Why The Bitcoin Standard still lands

32:14 Homes should not be stores of value

35:00 Which Bitcoin ETF for an allocation

45:00 Off-balance sheet manipulation

50:05 The morality play was never needed

50:55 BIP110, Bitcoin's latest civil war

1:05:01 Will they take over the mining pools

1:10:00 House, credit card debt, or Bitcoin

1:12:35 Hold until the thesis is invalidated

1:17:33 How to actually monitor adoption

1:18:31 Dan and Robert take the stage

1:24:45 Japan's domestic carry trade

1:33:09 Why the room follows Roberto

1:35:03 Talking Japan with Roberto

1:42:48 The financial repression playbook

1:50:03 Can you just delete the debt

2:03:25 Winding down for the weekend

2:05:19 Japan is the West's experiment lab

2:09:01 Bitcoin has no host country

The builder of EntropyLab, a single-file offline Bitcoin key and wallet calculator, argues your seed words are only as trustworthy as the entropy that created them, and that after the Coldcard failure no hardware wallet should generate your 24 words in secret. TC lays out the contradiction at the heart of Bitcoin security and the fix: roll your own entropy, create your own words, verify everything yourself. Fred Krueger answers the latest quantum panic, and Harry explains how one certificate authority's broken keys could have forged any website on Earth.

Loren and Terence host Bitcoin Today live on X, weekdays at 8:30 AM PT.

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00:00 Show open

04:09 UgaBoogaLand teaches Bitcoin as a game

04:29 Who funds Bitcoin education?

09:27 EntropyLab: a calculator, not a wallet

13:40 The file only works offline, on purpose

19:59 TC: create your own 24 words

24:17 Did your wallet use enough entropy?

29:02 The PSBT inspector checks your signer

34:23 Cold storage means rare on-chain moves

37:14 Done with hardware wallets

40:42 Trust it, or verify it yourself

41:14 Paranoid is the whole framework

46:06 Coldcard was a fork in the road

54:42 Online features defeat the purpose

1:00:28 Fred Krueger joins the room

1:02:25 Chamath's quantum FUD, answered

1:06:51 The PHP and Node.js certificate scare

1:11:20 A forged cert could fake any website

1:15:51 Point your own agent at your machine

1:18:37 Rocio: custody is a family decision

1:23:05 Self-custody is learning to drive

1:27:52 Sovereignty starts as a mind shift

1:29:07 Credential vaults at the OS level

1:31:41 A UTXO is a chunk of Bitcoin

1:37:34 A PSBT is a check missing a signature

1:41:10 Driving daily is riskier than Bitcoin

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Attorney Joe Carlasare argues proof of reserves proves nothing about a Bitcoin treasury company's solvency, because FTX showed addresses for Bitcoin it never had. Fred Krueger runs the math on a Tesla-SpaceX merger putting 30,000 BTC on one balance sheet, Matt McDonagh maps the three portals driving adoption, and Tomer Strolight explains why hash rate follows price instead of leading it.

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00:00 Bitcoin Today, Oct 21 lineup

04:40 Fred: digital credit is a sideshow

07:48 How much buying gets Bitcoin to $1M?

08:40 Tesla-SpaceX merger: 30,000 BTC

15:32 Proof of reserves: the debate opens

19:23 FTX showed reserves it never had

20:45 Joe: only a full audit proves solvency

23:26 Enough negativity, get bullish

24:09 Bitcoin $300K to $400K in 18 months

29:30 Slow your roll on the power law

31:52 Triple-entry bookkeeping changes audits

33:20 Matt: three portals drive adoption

35:50 AI agents will choose Bitcoin

36:34 Shadow banking runs on handshakes

37:40 Are LLMs eating Google search?

39:42 Bitcoin takes patience, not euphoria

44:41 The world is hooked on fixed income

46:07 PHP flaw put millions of sites at risk

1:02:13 A hacked site can steal your data

1:15:07 A live lesson in mining difficulty

1:19:31 Difficulty adjusts so no one takes over

1:20:54 Tomer: difficulty cuts both ways

1:26:24 20+ power laws surround Bitcoin

1:30:30 Mining cost tends to equal price

1:32:02 Hash rate follows price, not reverse

1:38:15 Tomorrow: onboarding, scams, adoption

1:51:34 Companies can sign to prove reserves

1:52:11 Tomer: proof of assets beats claims

1:59:03 Treasury companies down 87% to 90%

Jeff Walton of Strive walks through the $700M SATS placement and defends the fixed coupon against STRC's floating rate. The room presses him on SATA versus SATS, what happens if yields fall, and whether anything in the structure can force a sale of the bitcoin. Cut from today's full Bitcoin Today Space.

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CHAPTERS
0:00 Strive's $700M SATS raise
2:25 SATA vs SATS explained
4:00 What if yields fall?
8:00 Fixed coupon beats STRC floating
10:00 Building the capital stack
12:00 Nothing forces selling the Bitcoin
16:00 Pricing the raise: 90 vs 95
20:00 Matching investors to credit quality
22:16 If SATA depegs, who gets sacrificed?

Strive is raising $700 million through SATS, and the room argues whether a fixed coupon beats STRC. Jeff Walton joins Loren and Terence on SATA versus SATS, what happens if the coupon depegs, and why nothing in the structure forces a sale of the bitcoin. The open compares Bitcoin's volatility with the S&P 500.

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Watch the edited episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/b4K1L8J_Uuk

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Bitcoin calmer than 57% of S&P 500

05:07 Conference recap

28:48 Jeff Walton: $15B into Bitcoin

33:00 Strive's $700M SATS raise

35:25 SATA vs SATS explained

37:00 What if yields fall?

41:00 Fixed coupon beats STRC floating

43:00 Building the capital stack

45:00 Nothing forces selling the Bitcoin

49:00 Pricing the raise: 90 vs 95

53:00 Matching investors to credit quality

55:16 If SATA depegs, who gets sacrificed?

59:00 Jeff watches every data point

1:01:02 Is SATS paper Bitcoin?

1:03:00 Trust for the 99%: no self-custody

1:09:00 A transparent capital structure

1:11:00 Rebuilding markets on Bitcoin

1:13:25 The $4B fake letters of credit

1:25:07 mNAV vs price-to-book

1:35:14 Tough questions after the interview

1:40:00 ICOs, rugs, and honest criticism

1:43:00 Margin, rug pulls, market timing

1:45:00 Are the midterms already decided?

1:47:00 AI correction, Bitcoin breakout setup

1:49:00 Buy the fear, sell the greed

2:01:12 Does owning a home still make sense?

What’s happening in the Bitcoin market—and what are Bitcoiners talking about after Bitcoin Alpha in Santa Monica? From MicroStrategy (MSTR) to the bigger questions shaping Bitcoin, this episode brings the community conversation back to the forefront.

Today on Bitcoin Today, we revisit the energy surrounding last week’s Bitcoin Alpha conference in Santa Monica and dive into general Bitcoin topics, market perspectives, and the latest conversations across the Bitcoin community.

We also discuss MicroStrategy (MSTR) and its place in the Bitcoin ecosystem, alongside broader questions about Bitcoin, market sentiment, and the different ways people think about gaining and holding Bitcoin exposure.

Bitcoin is about more than price. It’s about ideas, conviction, community, and the future of money. This episode brings those themes together in an open, unscripted conversation about where Bitcoin stands and what could lie ahead.

Whether you attended Bitcoin Alpha in Santa Monica or are catching up from elsewhere, tune in for a community-driven discussion covering Bitcoin, MSTR, market outlooks, and the ideas shaping the Bitcoin conversation.

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Chapters:
0:00 Show open: Terence live from Santa Monica
5:00 Bitcoin gives you wings: trust your earning power, not your savings
10:00 Conference recap: Abundant Minds track and Proof of Bull
15:00 Shout-out: hoping Robert is doing well
20:00 Saylor at RFK: 38% Bitcoin CAGR, 52% Strategy CAGR over six years
25:00 Post-conference networking and hangouts
30:00 Dom Bei's "conference for trees" roast
35:00 The family fund framework
40:00 Bringing spouses to conferences, ATN joins
45:00 STRC buyback debate: the Apple iPhone moment analogy
50:00 Dark: Coinbase denied his self-custody withdrawal twice
55:00 Digital credit debate: returns without the volatility?
1:00:00 Moon banter and the hot digital credit topic
1:05:00 Dave: Saylor's earnings call and digital credit for non-Bitcoiners
1:10:00 Adoption S-curves: Amazon, ATMs, electric cars
1:15:00 Dave: 1987 program trading, magic-wand hedging always blows up
1:20:00 Buybacks cannot will a stock price higher
1:25:00 Healthcare detour: medical errors and the EHR era
1:30:00 Digital credit as marketing; Bitcoin as future collateral
1:35:00 Earnings calls: the AI trade is sucking up capital
1:40:00 Liquidity crisis debate: Blake grills a Strategy shorter
1:45:00 Macro: Luke Gromen's rock and a hard place
1:50:00 Europe: suicidal empathy and financed riots
1:55:00 The Nordics voted against their own interests
2:00:00 Wrap: jury duty banter and play-out