There was no better duo than Valerie and me in middle school. The last time we met was 2014 when she visited me in Germany while she was studying in France. Now she has two Bachelor degrees and living in Vancouver with her better half. We reminisced our time in middle school, how music kinda brought us together, how we were a mess back then, the time we got into a big fight, etc. We also covered more sensitive areas like mental health and the education system in Indonesia back in our day. Another thing that could interest you would be: Pete Wentz of Fall Out Boy and Amal Clooney.

This is a one-foot-dip in the water, before jumping in the pool, mainly just to see if everything works technically. But still, I've got someone interesting here, my best friend, Justine Hartwig. And we cover a lot of ground: living in a dorm, the kitchen situation, the washing situation, taking painting class, why I decided to make a podcast, judging people, Brooklyn 99, etc.