Lee Pugsley and Alex Howard of The Dark Room watched this year's Oscar ceremony with audio description on, and they brought friends. John Stark, and the newest Blind Film Critic Society member Ren Leach, join them to hand out their own awards, debate the night's surprises and snubs, and reflect on what it actually felt like to experience the telecast as a blind audience member.

They get specific. Who got named from the stage, which nominated films still don't have audio description, and what the Marlee Matlin captioning moment means for the conversation ahead.

This is a cross-post from The Dark Room, a podcast by two legally blind cinephiles for film lovers of all abilities. Subscribe to their show, and if you want to go deeper on the professionals who make audio description possible, that's what The ADNA Presents is here for.