It's no news that DeFi needs to scale - but will it happen on layer 2, or will projects move to other layer 1s? Serum's Sam Bankman-Fried (@SBF_Alameda) and Synthetix's Kain Warwick (@kaiynne) join us in discussing their opposite views on scaling Serum vs. Synthetix Solana vs. Optimistic RollupsIs Layer 2 enough to scale all of DeFi?Composability concerns with layer 2 solutionsBootstrapping liquidity for a new layer 1Host: Jason Choi (@MrJasonChoi). This show is not financial advice; show host and guest may hold some of the assets discussed.